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west australian rintels
« on: Wednesday 11 July 12 14:04 BST (UK) »
Information given to me about the Rintel line of my family had led me to believe that of the 8 children of Rabbi Moses Rintel and
Elvina Hart only Walter had  left a continuing family line. Entries in  Western Australian newspapers on the the Trove site showed this to be incorrect. Walters brother Simeon married Bertha Waterman in Victoria 17/1/1886. They had a daughter, Grace in
Victoria in 1887 before moving to Western Australia. By trawling through the Trove site i have been able to track them to a limited
extent. Grace attended the Wickllyffe Ladies Collage in 1901. On  23/3/1911 she married Major Jock Campbell. Her mother died
on 26/11/1927 aged 66. Her funeral notice said she was the mother of Grace and  grandmother of Bertie. I have not been able to discover if Bertie had any children. Rintel is not a common name in Australia so i would hope that someone can fill in some of
the gaps or may even be connected to them. Either way i would be grateful to hear from them.

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Re: west australian rintels
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 11 July 12 14:50 BST (UK) »
Hi pwh,
  There are 6 Rintels in the W.A. metropolitan cemeteries index http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/results.php
and there are 5 female Rintels marrying in W.A. http://www.wamarriage.info/

I hope this helps ...
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Re: west australian rintels
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 11 July 12 14:55 BST (UK) »
I found a Bert Campbell born in WA in 1921, but can't find a marriage or a death that matches.  

Who were the 8 children of Moses and Elvina?  I can see children with the surname Schultz born to Deborah Rintel first in Victoria and then WA.  There are also children with the surname Stern born to Isabel Rintel in Victoria.

Let me know if I'm on the right track and I'll send you more info.
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Re: west australian rintels
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 11 July 12 15:36 BST (UK) »
jen 56 johns
          These are Moses and Elvina Harts children
                   Henri john  b 1850 d 13/6/1850
                  isabel         b 1851 d 3/8/1921    c   
                  myer          b 1853  d  8/12/1914
                  edward       b  1854  d by 1921
                  henri          b 1856   d 3/3/1923
                simeon         1858     d  11/1/1919
                adelaide       1862     d   26/10/1916
                walter          b 1865  d   1925
               sarah            b 1867  d   1893     


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Re: west australian rintels
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 11 July 12 15:38 BST (UK) »
Hi,

A couple of snippets re Simeon Rintel.

Victorian Government Gazette 5th December 1890 page 4705.
Insolvencies
25th November
Simeon Rintel, saddler, North Fitzroy (assignee, Cohen)

1888 Victorian PO Directory (Wise)
Rintel Simeon, 110 Michael St, North Fitzror.
Rintel H, tailor, 170, Drummond st, Carlton.

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Re: west australian rintels
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 11 July 12 16:26 BST (UK) »
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                   You are on the right track with isabel rintels children. She married abraham Stern. they had three children
                       
                         Eda Ruth Stern  b 1878 d 1879  Melbourne
                         Rita Rintel Stern b  1882  d 1960  Melbourne
                         Ruby Florence  Stern 1876 d 1945  Melbourne
                  With regard to Deborah Rintel i have no information on her. The only thing that comes to mind is Hyam rintel. I believe  he was
                  the brother of  Moses. There was a court case in Melbourne  regarding a man known as the Nunnawadig Messiah. In the
                  newspaper report  Hyam who was a witness is described as being the brother of Moses. The Messiah set up a religious
                 community called New Jerusalem near Wickepin WA This could explain her prescence in WA. Some more research is needed

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Re: west australian rintels
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 11 July 12 16:37 BST (UK) »
aussie1947
                   That would be my Simeon .When he died in Perth in 1919 he was the manager of the saddlery department
of Boans  department store
                                                                                       
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Re: west australian rintels
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 July 12 17:09 BST (UK) »
Deborah Rintel married John William Schultz.  Their children:

Emil Emmanuel Schultz b. 1897 Scoresby, VIC  d. 1946 South Melbourne  Married Vera Mckenzie in Perth in 1925
James Frederick Will Schultz b. 1903 Narrogin, WA married Alice Symes in Perth in 1927.  Can't find death in WA
Kezia Rachel Rintel Schultz b. 1903 Narrogin, WA married Harold Gillies in 1931 in Narrogin.  Died in 1988 in Armadale, WA

Deborah died in 1941 in Perth and her husband died in 1925 in Narrogin.

Hope that helps for now.
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Re: west australian rintels
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 11 July 12 17:54 BST (UK) »
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             Trove has come up trumps again. I looked up Deborah Schultz  and found her funeral notice. In the notice was the
information that though she died in Perth she was late of Wickepin. That would tie in with the New Jerusalem. It might also indicate
that she could be the daughter or Hyam Rintel. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction
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