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Re: People with dogs - Date and location needed
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 15 July 12 17:34 BST (UK) »
Coud these subjects be employees posing at a tied cottage? She holding a female dog and he holding a male dog. The lady does not seem to have the demeanor of someone living a hard life. I am throwing something out for discussion rather than fact. Could the old man be the baliff, another be the gamekeeper, another the groom and/or farm servant?

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Re: People with dogs - Date and location needed
« Reply #19 on: Monday 16 July 12 06:55 BST (UK) »
Hmm no idea, going off 1911 census which is closest information I have around this date, possible families were as follows:

Charles (age 56) - Stockman on farm - Walton on Naze
Benjamin (26), Bertha (24) - Police Constable - Southend on sea

Other possible males around age are all in the Navy and unmarried which seems less likely. So I am thinking the two on the left are Benjamin and Bertha. With the older gentlemen on Bertha's right possible being Benjamin's father Charles. No clue on fourth fellow though. And then could be wrong on all counts.

Does the fellow on the far left look anything like a police constable to back this up, if there is anything about his attire that is revealing of this?

Find attached a picture of Charles taken about 10 years prior if anyone is good at matching faces, they look reasonably similar to me.

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Re: People with dogs - Date and location needed
« Reply #20 on: Monday 16 July 12 08:41 BST (UK) »
Just had another thought. The bowler fellow might be Charles' father Samuel (age 78), which would mean the photo would have to be 1910–early 1911 as Samuel died in March 1911. Is this within the realms of your dating Jim? Though he seems fairly portly for a retired thatcher/ag labourer hmmm.

EDIT: Just had another look to see if I had other photos of Samuel and apparently the below is him. Though I am unsure as to when this photograph was taken (any possibility of an approx date? As I say he was 78 when he died in 1911), if he trimmed his beard, stuck on the bowler and got the large coat I am thinking it is a possible match?

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Re: People with dogs - Date and location needed
« Reply #21 on: Monday 16 July 12 12:46 BST (UK) »
Looks pre WW1 & ag.labs. didn't wear bowlers.

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Re: People with dogs - Date and location needed
« Reply #22 on: Monday 16 July 12 12:49 BST (UK) »
I have no idea about fashion or buildings or dogs even, but the people look Czechoslovakian. Especially the 3 people on the left.
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Re: People with dogs - Date and location needed
« Reply #23 on: Monday 16 July 12 23:34 BST (UK) »
Coming in late to this. 

First a note on the spaniels - they look to be Springer Spaniels, the one on the right is an English Springer and the smaller, paler one could be a Welsh Springer.

For me the picture has a Northern English feel and as has been said already there were and still are many estates Up North hosting shoots for game on the moors, and spaniels, along with other gundogs, have always played a keen part.  The gable of the house in the left background is built of coursed stone and is typical of Lancashire or Yorkshire, and other northern parts.  The tall chimney pot has a fluted top and is of the type found where the countryside has hills and dales.  The lead flashing around the base of the brick chimney of the wooden building is typical of English architecture.

My initial thoughts on the vertical wooden boarded structure is that it could be some sort of clubhouse?

Maggie  :)
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