Bridget Cullen b.1883 lived in Barnacullia

[aghadowey]

A Sarah Cullen, age 9, died in 1916. Could this be Matthew and Bridget's daughter Sarah?
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1916/05231/4448727.pdf (informant was a Mary Doyle)
IF this was the correct Sarah could Mary Doyle (a relative?) have been caring for her after her mother died?

Added- see next reply which confirms this Sarah was not the daughter of Matthew and Bridget.

[nannyj]

A Sarah Cullen, age 9, died in 1916. Could this be Matthew and Bridget's daughter Sarah?
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1916/05231/4448727.pdf (informant was a Mary Doyle)
IF this was the correct Sarah could Mary Doyle (a relative?) have been caring for her after her mother died?

No. I met Sarah's daughter. She died in the 1960s in England. She was living with the Traynors. Cullen daughter married a Traynor.

[aghadowey]

Good to have that sorted. Very difficult to sort out all the different Cullen families there.

[nannyj]

Good to have that sorted. Very difficult to sort out all the different Cullen families there.

I know. I hadn't realised it was such a popular surname. And Bridget and Matthew both being Cullens with families from the same area has made it all the harder.

[taramcdsmall]

So . . . The following are just possible leads to get you back further with Francis Cullen . . .

Please note that these are just works in progress at the moment . . .

I am looking at Francis' parents possibly being Patrick Cullen and Johanna Connor . . . I know you had mentioned these before . . .

So Patrick and Johanna married in 1838 and had a son called Francis born in 1839 BUT this is too early a birth for your Francis as in 1869 he states that he was 19 giving his birth year to be approximately 1850 . . .

But, it was relatively common for a couple to have a child, this child to pass away, and then to christen a later child with this same name.

Looking at Johanna (or Jane) . . . A Jane Cullen passed away in 1883 in Stepaside . . . Stating widow . . . Son James informant . . .

I would have liked to see Francis naming his first or second daughter Jane (to establish naming patterns) but reviewing I noticed that his first daughter was christened Mary JANE Cullen . . . Not an exact science but a good start.

I found a Catherine Cullen born to Patrick Cullen and Johanna/Jane Connor in 1841 and she's a very good match to the Catherine Cullen that I mentioned earlier that married a Joseph Doyle in 1865.

There is a death for a James Cullen in 1884 in Stepaside who looks to be a good match for the son of Patrick and Jane Cullen . . .

Again, all these are just works in progress for now but I just wanted to type them up before I couldn't decifer my notes 😁

Tara

[nannyj]

Thanks Tara.
Working notes as you say but a good start.
I've always found it strange calling successive children the same name as a dead child. I can understand the wanting to carry family names on etc but I've found this happening to four children sometimes. As a mum, I don't think I could've saddled a child with the same name after losing three children of the same name. Almost tempting fate 😱

[taramcdsmall]

HA

I'm convinced there were only about 10 Christian names in Ireland 100 years ago . . . A slight exaggeration but it feels that way sometimes.

On the other hand it can prove handy when trying to work out different families with the same surname in one area . . .

While Bernard / Brian and variant spellings is not a rare Christian name (this is the same name just in case you don't know) I have spotted it appearing a few times on what I'm thinking is your family . . . Again, still a work in progress . . .

Tara

[nannyj]

Didn't know about Bernard and Bryan. Ny nan and grandad's first child in 1932 was a Bryan. Only lived a few weeks 😪

[nannyj]

HA

I'm convinced there were only about 10 Christian names in Ireland 100 years ago . . . A slight exaggeration but it feels that way sometimes.

On the other hand it can prove handy when trying to work out different families with the same surname in one area . . .

While Bernard / Brian and variant spellings is not a rare Christian name (this is the same name just in case you don't know) I have spotted it appearing a few times on what I'm thinking is your family . . . Again, still a work in progress . . .

Tara

Matthew, James, John, Patrick, Catherine, Mary, Bridget, Elizabeth, Anne.