Ledsham Ellesmere Port

[LEDSHAM]

Researching William Ledsham & Annie Elizabeth Saunders (both born about 1878/9)
1911 Census at 10 Nelson Road Eport, 1915 at 48 Enfield Rd, Eport
6 children:
Annie Elizabeth, Mary Ann, Thomas JW, John Henry, Emily Maud, May Alexandra
i have searched census, birth/death index/burial/baptism etc - I have dates for all.
But cannot find any links to birth of William and Annie E Saunders.
He states Bhead as birthplace, she as Chester on 1911 census, but not sure if this is true.
Found only one marriage of Ledsham/Saunders in 1912, Chester - and feel this is a very good possibility
Annie E (1st daughter) married into Haddock family, and tracked them to Woolrich family still in Eport
Mary A married Maloney, Thomas was in Deva Hospital, John H died in 1933, Emily died age 1, May died 1987 (my grandmother)
Had a lot of dealings with Christ Church in Ellesmere Port, and found one vase for William Ledsham.

Hoping to gain info shortly on the Woolrich family, as tracked my mothers cousin, but just wondering if there are any relations to this family out there, or anyone knows anything, as I have hit a brick wall on William and Annie to trace further back.
If the marriage certificate of 1912 correct, then their parents are James Ledsham and John Saunders.

Noticed another Ledsham in post, but doesn't seem to be a connection.

Any info would be gratefully appreciated.

[nanny jan]

Hi,

Welcome to Rootschat.   

How accurate are the birth years for William and Annie.......1818/9?


Nanny Jan

[LEDSHAM]

Thanks...well spotted!!!
just changed.
1878/1879 are the birth dates going by their age on the 1911 census
William died in 1929 and Annie in 1937
Both buried at Christchurch Ellesmere Port, judging form my research

[nanny jan]

I did wonder if that was why I couldn't find them!   

[Lemon Nelly]

Not sure if you live in the Port, but if not Christ Church is no longer used as a church though most of the grave yard is in tact with many legible stones, worth a visit, but be warned I went to look for my G Grandparents and was told  road building took over some of the burial sites much to my disgust as it included the plot I wanted.

[LEDSHAM]

http://ellesmereportmethodist.org.uk/Christchurch/Plot%20Plan%20rev%205.pdf

I found this site some time ago. I'm on the South Coast - hence having to do this via internet, but my family still are near there, so I'm trying to arm myself with enough info for a trip to the records office. Just need a little more info on William and Annie really to find out more about them.
But this site was photographed, and they have a William Ledsham on a vase, from his wife and children (you can email for the photo's they took)
The vicar mentioned that no parish records were available. But, I have found burial information on familysearch.org - not fully understanding that site....but they say about microfilm that there seems to be no way to view from the UK, joined up and no imagery. Also school records, but without William & Annies correct birth, I'm having to try and follow each lead I can.
 
I gained a copy of what I think is their marriage certificate, but threw me a little as both their address states 7 Spital Walk, Boughton, Chester. But, if it is theirs, then they could have used that address from a friend/relative to get married in Chester - as from looking all that up, they seemed to have had to have lived in the district for one calendar month before they could marry. They could not have married in a church at any point after their first child, so I would imagine Chester register office would be the closest.
I could be very wrong about this being their marriage, but is the only Saunders and Ledsham I could find in early 1900's, and from Cheshire BMD I found their exact names, and that he was an ironworks labourer on that and the census.

Anyway...do you know at all which part would have been built on at this graveyard? I have found a few small pictures of this site, but nothing that legible.
I have been trying to search it closer on street view, but you can't get close enough - so frustrating not being near there.

[garstonite]

The name John Saunders on the marriage certificate is more than likely Annies Grandfather.

Annie Elizabeth Saunders christened 26th september 1875 at St Marys Chester - parents - Elizabeth Saunders- no father

so either her father was recently deceased - or - she was illegitimate - if this was the case , most people gave their grandad as their dad on marriage certs..
www.familysearch.org.uk
annie elizabeth saunders
baptism
1875-1880
chester
search

regards
allan

[garstonite]

William Ledsham christened 25th march 1875 at St Anne ,Birkenhead
parents John and Fanny ....you have James as father

William Ledsham b 1873 Birkenhead aged 28 - son in 1901 census

William Ledsham 3rd nov 1879 at St Paul Chester - parents James and Elizabeth

the only 3 I could find ....the first has right birth town ,but wrong father
the 3rd has wrong town birth but right fathers name - James

the 2nd needs someone to get that family up in 1901 census to see if his father is James Ledsham

same site as Annie Elizabeth Saunders info
good luck
regards
allan

[Lemon Nelly]

Pity I hadn't seen this sooner I was in the Port last week.  I can't tell you which plots were built on sorry, but maybe a phone call or e mail to the burials dept in the council buildings might help, the records for Christ Church I was told are held by the Chester Diocese, I did phone them once but though pleasant not very helpful