BRAITHWAITE John Serjeantson - Arrival in Australia

[dustfarmer]

John Serjeantson BRAITHWAITE was born 15 Oct 1864 in Rock Ferry, Cheshire, England.  Son of John Henry BRAITHWAITE.
I would like to know if there is some way of knowing when and where he arrived in Australia.  First record I have of him is marriage to Phoebe Josephine BAKER (daughter of Samuel BAKER)  in Southern Cross, West Australia on 22 July 1894.
He was still there on 31 January, 1902, when my Grandmother was born at Murrin Murrin, West Australia.

He then moved to Tasmania at some stage, then on to South Yarra in Melbourne, but I am not sure where to look to confirm all this.
Any help appreciated.

Thanks,

Peter Mitchell

[~MERLIN~]

Have you checked for him on the UK Census for 1871, 1881 & 1891?

This often gives some indication of when they may have emigrated.

Do you have his 1932 death certificate? This usually shows the length of time they have lived here.

[Aussie1947]

Hi,

Some info.

The 1906 Electoral Roll has John & Phoebe at Burtville the Division of Coolgardie in WA where John is an Engine Driver.

The 1910 Electoral Roll has John & Phoebe at Redcastle in the subdistrict of Mount Magnet in WA where John is an Engine Driver.

1914 in Tasmania
Division of Bass Subdivision of Ringarooma
John Serjeantson Braithwaite, Ringarooma, Hotel Keeper.
Phoebe Joesphine Braithwaite, Ringarooma, Domestic Duties.

1919 still registered in Tasmania
Division of Bass Subdivision of Ringarooma
John Serjeantson Braithwaite, Derby, Hotel Keeper
Phoebe Joesphine Braithwaite, Derby, Domestic Dutie

1924 in Melbourne, Victoria
John Serjeantson Braithwaite is registered at 22 David St, South Yatrra, Engine Driver
Josephine Braithwaite is registered at 74 Moore St South Yarra on Home Duties.

1931
Division of Batman Subdivision of Westgarth
John Serjeantson Braithwaite, 12 Walter St, nil occupation
No Phoebe Josephine registered at this address.

Regards
Gerry
 

[Aussie1947]

Transfer of the hotel licence at Deloraine Tasmania in October 1915

 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/50838979?searchTerm=

Clarendon hotel at Evendale in 1919

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12397022?searchTerm=

Still in Tasmania 1921

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/23486811?searchTerm=

Gerry

[Aussie1947]

1896 mention for Phoebe at Coolgardie WA

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/32212506?searchTerm=

Gerry

[cando]

Have you checked for him on the UK Census for 1871, 1881 & 1891?

This often gives some indication of when they may have emigrated.

Do you have his 1932 death certificate? This usually shows the length of time they have lived here.

1871 Census - John's father had been widowed. 

1881  John was a boarder at Farnham Grammar School.

John could have landed at any state in Aus and been attracted to the goldfields in the early 1890's.  As Merlin suggested, his death certificate would help you as it should show his years in Aus and in each state.

You can purchase online [AUD$20] and immediately download.
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage


Cando

[sparrett]

PHOEBE's father correctly was--

BRAITHWAITE Phoebe Josine
Father Baker Thos Saml Martin
Mother Johanna  MURRAY
Death Place S YARRA
Age 53
Year 1923
Reg Number 16799

I would tentatively put this forward as a second marriage for him in WA

BAKER THOMAS S M        
TURK  ANNY H
MT MARGARET 6  1908


http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/37583314?searchTerm="thomas s m baker"&searchLimits=

In probate WA 1909. BAKER  Thomas S M of REDCASTLE WA.

 Probable sighting--Post Office Directory shows him in REDCASTLE in  1909 as a Hotel Keeper there where he uses the name SAMUEL.

Sue 

[sparrett]

BAKER Samuel M - Buried 10 Mar 1909:Section A 75 : aged 80
Death Cert 8 Mt Margaret District: Had Wayside Inn at Redcastle
 
http://www.outbackfamilyhistory.com.au/Mount%20Morgan/Morgcem.htm


Obituary for SAMUEL BAKER which seems to confirm the second marriage at the age of about 84.  It also says he had  been in the region for many years.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0ohq/


None of which brings you closer to BRAITHWAAITE's arrival, but may give interesting background if you do not already have it.

Sue

[dustfarmer]

Hi all, thanks to everyone helping with this, I am amazed where all this info comes from.  There's lots of stuff here especially to do with the BAKER side of the family, which had come to a bit of a halt.  I'm supposed to go out tonite, but it's tempting to stay in and put this all together.  I will over the weekend though, and get back to this post .  Many thanks.