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Re: William Hall burial 1830 Leeds aged 46
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 08 July 12 13:51 BST (UK) »
We have friends in Oxford who lament on your weather. water restrictions etc. Our summer was pretty poor so it's nice to get a sunny winter's day once in a while.

I have no idea on William's father's name, nor where he was born...I could guess William as most of the children in the families called their fist son William...maybe that's too much of an assumption, but worth a try. He seemed to be fairly entrenched in Leeds in the hat business from a fairly young age...however I have been wrong before!

An example...William Milner was Thomas's father in law...not George..an interesting coincidence though.
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Re: William Hall burial 1830 Leeds aged 46
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 08 July 12 20:31 BST (UK) »
Ok!

I'm more informed now!


Thomas Hall 

Bride's Sarah Fish 
 
Marriage  23 Jul 1770 
 Saint Peter, Leeds, York, England 


"William Hall baptised Bradford Parish of St Peter(Minster) -9th Sept 1770
 abode in Shipley Bradford father Thomas Hall"


Willam's dad Thomas Hall ( only one that fits 1770 to 1772 by all 3 known ages of Williams BMD events in his life line. Also abodes fits as Leeds and Mary Hall (Taylor) Manningham Bradford and Willaim  Hall bapt place Shipley Bradford 1770

"Thomas Hall born 4th Aug 1751 Baptised 17th Aug 1751 St Peter Leeds
abode South Park Leeds father John Hall"



"Thomas Hall burial 14 March 1838 aged 86 St Mark Woodhouse Leeds"

 (estimated by age 86 at burial he was born 1752)

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Mrs Mary Hall nee Taylor  Age and place of bapt from 1851c

"Mary Taylor
Baptised 24 Oct 1787 Catterick,​ York,​ England
residence  Catterick,​ York,​ England
parents Philip Taylor ,​ Mary Taylor "


Quote;~ Thomas Henry Hall had a brother, Phillip Taylor Hall,
 born about 1819, died July 1837, in his 18 th year~ Unquote Margaret


Mary Hall (nee Taylor) Death Wife of William Hall- Hatter/Woolstapler.(merchant)

"Mary Taylor burial age 76 on th  27 th Aug 1866 St Paul's Manningham Bradford"
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These may or may not be related

"Mary Hall born  Feb 24th 1806 baptised April 27th 1806 St Peter Leeds Abode 'Bank ?
father William" (No mothers name given)
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"Sarah Hall baptised 29th Oct 1809 St Peter Bradford -abode Boweling
father William an Husbandsman"  (No mothers name given)
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: William Hall burial 1830 Leeds aged 46
« Reply #20 on: Monday 09 July 12 11:00 BST (UK) »
I'll leave you with this.

Read up on the Luddits. The raid at Liversedge Mill,

They never did find out who Captain Ludd really was.. But had to have had money to travel
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Re: William Hall burial 1830 Leeds aged 46
« Reply #21 on: Monday 09 July 12 18:08 BST (UK) »
Struggling through the Marriage Bond Allegation; quick question. Is this just the equivalent to a marriage license or is there more to it? Seems incredibly detailed
Hall (Bradford); Morgan (Bradford); Milner (Bradford); Fearnley (Bradford); Tilling (London); Spillard (London); Fudge (Adelaide, Australia); Callaghan (Kapunda, Australia)


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Re: William Hall burial 1830 Leeds aged 46
« Reply #22 on: Monday 09 July 12 20:59 BST (UK) »
Hi

Most licences did not survive and there is a reason the bond allegations were kept by you will have to explore the internet. None of the documents gave parents names! unless one the couple was minor or both were..  The great thing about these allegations is they gave their ages and abodes.

I have found the Will of  (William Hall b 1770 d 1828 father Thomas)  father Thomas Hall b 1751- d 1838 Will in probate passed July 1840

Index of Wills/Administrations- of probate.
 
1840 July - Hall Thomas of the parish of Bowling Bradford -Will value under £100

http://www.york.ac.uk/library/borthwick/copying/remote-copy-services/#probate

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He died in Bowling in Bradford 1838 and buried in Woodhouse in Leeds

As Mary Hall (widow of William) died in Manningham Bradford 1866

I have explored the national burials also the Ancestry.com parsh burial for Bradford/ Leeds area from March 1838 to July 1840 and only Thomas Hall burial March 1838 Woodhouse Leeds is there.
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Re: William Hall burial 1830 Leeds aged 46
« Reply #23 on: Monday 09 July 12 22:07 BST (UK) »
Mary Hall born  Feb 24th 1806 baptised April 27th 1806 St Peter Leeds Abode 'Bank ?
father William" (No mothers name given)
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St Peter Leeds August 16th 1807

'Matthew son of William Hall of Saint George Street Leeds'

(No occupation Given for William)

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"Sarah Hall baptised 29th Oct 1809 St Peter Bradford -abode Bowling father William an Husbandsman"  (No mothers name given)
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Re: William Hall burial 1830 Leeds aged 46
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 10 July 12 12:54 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the baptism dates Dave. we had ordered weeks ago a film of St Peter's Baptisms so will check as soon as it arrives.

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Re: William Hall burial 1830 Leeds aged 46
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 10 July 12 14:06 BST (UK) »
The way they entered the baptisms at St Peter's Leeds was unusual!
Entered like

William Hall, St Geo Street, Mathew

They put the parents name first in pen drawn (Not printed) boxed entry.

instant access to WY PR's
I would advice either joining Ancestry.com subscribed at home or visit a town/city central main council library and (advice use this method first) use their free library edition of Ancestry.com on a public computer as all most all of the West Yorkshire anglican parish registers & some nonconformist registers are on their website and are indexed in their search engine. Plus all cenus & loads more doc's

LDS family history libraries takes time to order films and charge to hire films.







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Re: William Hall burial 1830 Leeds aged 46
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 10 July 12 23:29 BST (UK) »
Sound like John maybe William Hall's (Woolstapler/Hatter) brother with ref's to Leeds on the headstones.


John Hall
England and Wales Census, 1841
 birth: 1776 Yorkshire
census: 1841 Bradford,​ Yorkshire,​ England
   
 Name: John Hall 
Event: Census 
Event Date: 1841 
Gender: Male 
Age: 65 
Birthplace: Yorkshire 
Record Type: Household 
Registration District: Bradford 
Sub-district: Manningham 
Civil Parish: Bradford 
County: Yorkshire 


John Hall
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
 birth: 22 Mar 1776 
christening: 23 Apr 1776 SAINT PETER,​LEEDS,​YORK,​ENGLAND
 parents: Thomas Hall  
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth