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carpenters arms miserden
« on: Wednesday 04 July 12 16:59 BST (UK) »
hi,
 
can anyone tell me how to find out who was the registered landlord of the carpenters
arms inn,miserden, gloucestershire around 1800. Thanks.*COMPLETED*
sheppard family(all spelling variants) gloucestershire,mainly miserden and London post 1830.

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Re: carpenters arms miserden
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 07 July 12 12:59 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue,
I've checked with the local expert, Geoff SANDELS, and he states that the earliest Landlord, that he has a record of, at the Carpenters Arms in Miserden, is a J. SHEPPERD in 1856. The following is the website for Gloucestershire Pubs:-
www.gloucestershirepubs.co.uk/
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HARVEY, Guiting Power, Glos                     
PORTER, Gunmakers of Whitechapel
ALLEN - Blockley, BOWLES - Notgrove, BURROWS - Sevenhampton, COOK - Notgrove, DRINKWATER-LUNN - Aston Cross, FARDON - Temple Guiting, FAULKNER - Cheltenham, GADEN, GAYDEN, GAYDON, GRINHAM - Cheltenham, HART - Stow-on-the-Wold, LANE - Staverton, MOABY - Coln St Aldwyns, STAITE - Temple Guiting, TIMBRELL - Winchcombe, TYSOE - Warks & Glos, WHITFORD - Stanway, WINTLE - Forest of Dean, WYNNIATT - Stanway

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Re: carpenters arms miserden
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 07 July 12 16:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Victor,

Thank you for your reply, you have confirmed what we thought.That John Sheppard is ours and we think his father could  have been landlord before him. We undertand, that the village was owned by the Estate except the Church and the pub and wonder therefore,if  John Sheppard was a tenant landlord or owned the pub,as he was also a carpenter at the same premises.

Many thanks again to you and Geoff.

Sue.
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Re: carpenters arms miserden
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 10 July 12 15:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue,
I wasn't able to find out any further data about the Landlord of the Carpenters Arms, but I did find the following:-
Glos Archives (GA) GAL/G3
The Victoria History of the County of Gloucester, Volume XI, Pages 47-56.
This is a potted history of Miserden going back to virtually the year dot. I found no entry for the Carpenters Arms, but you can find masses of other data.
Try Googling the above volume.
Victor
HARVEY, Guiting Power, Glos                     
PORTER, Gunmakers of Whitechapel
ALLEN - Blockley, BOWLES - Notgrove, BURROWS - Sevenhampton, COOK - Notgrove, DRINKWATER-LUNN - Aston Cross, FARDON - Temple Guiting, FAULKNER - Cheltenham, GADEN, GAYDEN, GAYDON, GRINHAM - Cheltenham, HART - Stow-on-the-Wold, LANE - Staverton, MOABY - Coln St Aldwyns, STAITE - Temple Guiting, TIMBRELL - Winchcombe, TYSOE - Warks & Glos, WHITFORD - Stanway, WINTLE - Forest of Dean, WYNNIATT - Stanway


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Re: carpenters arms miserden
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 10 July 12 19:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Victor

Thanks very much for your reply and infomration.I shall certanily follow up your suggestion,as to date have been unable to find much info on Miserden,it only being a small village(advantage is we know all the Sheppards are ours!)

Thanks again for your reply and time.

Sue.
sheppard family(all spelling variants) gloucestershire,mainly miserden and London post 1830.

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Re: carpenters arms miserden
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 July 12 20:46 BST (UK) »
Sue
Just to confuse matters, thought you might be interested to learn that there are seven baptisms at Miserden listed to John & Elizabeth SHEPHERD between 1825 and 1847 (one of them a John, on 30/03/1833).
Also three baptisms listed to John & Elizabeth SHEPPARD between 1827 and 1840.
Strangely both the fathers are shown as carpenters by profession!
But you probably know all this already ...
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ABEL(L), 18c, Winstone GLS and around
ASHCROFT, mainly 19c, Aughton, LAN
GIBBINS, all, Miserden GLS and around
HAGUE, mainly Malton, YRK but they got around
HAVILAND etc, 17-19c, Winstone GLS and around
HAVILAND etc, 16c, Poole DOR
HAVILAND etc, 15-16c, Guernsey CI
HERBERT, 18-19c, various GLS
OCCOULD etc, 17c, wherever in GLS
TURK(E), 18c, various GLS
VANDERPANT/VAN DER PANT, all !

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Re: carpenters arms miserden
« Reply #6 on: Monday 30 July 12 18:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Colin

Thanks for your reply.

Yes,however we are fairly confident,after checking the 1841 cencus, they are the same couple,just variants of the spelling of SHEPPARD.

Sue.
sheppard family(all spelling variants) gloucestershire,mainly miserden and London post 1830.