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Re: NSW birth - Pamela TATE
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 03 July 12 04:50 BST (UK) »
What date was her BRITISH passport issued?

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Re: NSW birth - Pamela TATE
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 03 July 12 04:52 BST (UK) »
May I ask

HOW recent is this passport?  Is it possible it is issued decades ago back when Australians were issued British Passports? What colour is the cover? What status is shown for the holder? Could it be her maiden or her married surname?  Is the holder no longer living?

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Re: NSW birth - Pamela TATE
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 03 July 12 05:06 BST (UK) »
Hi
Searching for a birth based on the passport information is probably not going to find it. Did Pamela Tate marry, who is listed as her mother and father on that?
Henry Tate could easily have been John Henry. Her age could be wrong too, we may be looking for the wrong year.
There are 35 Pamela's with mother Dorothy between 1889 and 1918, but if she was younger than shown, her birth may have been after 1918.
I think we need more info on Pamela.
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Re: NSW birth - Pamela TATE
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 03 July 12 11:29 BST (UK) »
Do we have 'Captain' in our forces?

Could have been the captain of a ship in the Merchant navy.

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Re: NSW birth - Pamela TATE
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 03 July 12 11:42 BST (UK) »
No Pamela's married up to 1950 in NSW.

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Re: NSW birth - Pamela TATE
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 05 July 12 11:07 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for your help! As a result of your replies I contacted someone in the family who might, I thought, have her marriage certificate. Once found, lo and behold although she was always known as Pamela, and that is the name on her passport, when she married she gave her name as Dot (so probably Dorothy) Tate. The mystery deepens still further since she gave her age on marriage in 1936 as 23 which suggests she was born in 1913, yet her passport gives the birth date 9 Jan1916 in New South Wales. The family story is that she was born under canvas somewhere in the outback! Although the father was always known as Henry Tate on the marriage certificate he is listed as Richard Henry Tate. He was deceased by the time of her marriage (1936) and his profession given as Captain Royal Welch Fusiliers. Sorry to have mislead you with the wrong names! Does any of this help?
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Re: NSW birth - Pamela TATE
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 05 July 12 11:08 BST (UK) »
Sorry - should have added she was married in the UK, so returned here sometime before 1936.

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Re: NSW birth - Pamela TATE
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 05 July 12 11:27 BST (UK) »
When you have a moment, please answer some of my questions about the passport. 
Quote from: majm on Tuesday 03 July 12 04:52 BST (UK)
May I ask

HOW recent is this passport?  Is it possible it is issued decades ago back when Australians were issued British Passports? What colour is the cover?  Is the holder no longer living?

Cheers JM

So we are looking for a NSW birth registered outside of Metro Sydney, for a Dot (orthy) born 1913, or 6 Jan 1916 or 6 Jan 1917....  born west of the Great Dividing Range, perhaps further west, perhaps in the Western Division.   So 1916 or 1917 is during WWI, and unless the Captain was retired, there would be no need for any Royal Welch Fusiliers in NSW. 

Fingers crossed,

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Re: NSW birth - Pamela TATE
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 05 July 12 11:40 BST (UK) »
Will need to check the date on the passport again, but definitely the old style British passport with the black cover and the crest on the front! It was issued in the name of her second marriage Pamela Bell.
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