Hi All,
Gee this is getting to be a mess, most probably because of miss-information posted by my-self. [Not Intentionally].
I am a Vincent by birth, both my brother and I, [twins], were adopted out in 1949, hence my interest into my birth family. [There are skeleton's in every-ones closet].
Florence Vincent, mentioned by wivenhoe, [is the mother of Phyllis Doreen Vincent], she is my Grand Aunt, or better still, a sister to my Grand-father, Arthur Royden Vincent.
One of the very first family trees I was given, did have the name "Unknown Gittens". When I asked a bit more about this person, people were very evasive, and up cropped with the name of Gittus. If this was to put me to put me off the track or change the subject, they did a very good job of it. That information was given too me by close family members of Florence Vincent].
From all accounts there was a personal family issue, with the birth of Ronald William

, [Phyllis's son]. The pair later divorced.
I seemed to gather more information re; the name Gittus, than what I did Gittens, so I thought the family was right , where in fact wivenhoe may have hit the right note..
Did the family try to put this adopted bloke, who possibly in their eyes, was a busy body, asking questions, and seeking answers to private family issues. [hell, I am family], In fact,t I only found out I had a half brother and sister, after 57 years, [in 2006], when I sought details on my birth mother and family..
Getting back to the query of MERLIN, stating there is still something wrong.: There most probably is ; I stated that Doreen had three husbands, on reflection, I believe the "Unknown Spouse", was in actual fact, William George Johnson, [both the same person].
Also, MERLIN metioned that there was a Phyllis Vincent, who married a Birton Claude Bramich. Her full name was Phyllis Daisy Bramich, she was the person I got mixed up with, in one of my very first posts. [That Phyllis is a sister to Florence Vincent].
All the above is of very little consequence if wivenhoe is right. I apologize immensely for the hassle and time wasting that I have caused to the good members of "RootsChat".
Regards
George - riverrat