Author Topic: Body of beheaded man1600s Nuneaton Can this archival record assist researchers?  (Read 10628 times)

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The Scott's of Buccleugh descend from the marriage of Charles II's illegitimate son the Duke of Monmouth who married a Scott heiress. Monmouth was beheaded in a very botched job by Jack Ketch, what happened to the body? could this be it.

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Thanks all for your responses.

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Heads were usually mounted on a spike outside Newgate also Newnham was a bit of a backwater & it's unlikely the son of a Duke would be buried there.The head being with the body suggests a death other than execution & as the head & body were embalmed suggests they were placed in the coffin at the same time.
Newnham Manor was plundered by the Parliamentarian army & the death may have occurred at that time.

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The heading (sic) is incorrect as Newnham is near Rugby and nowhere near Nuneaton


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I would think this has to be the most botched beheading.

http://www.real-british-ghosts.com/margaret-pole.html
SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth

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Always best to tip the executioner.

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Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Always best to tip the executioner.

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SCOTLAND: Wardlaw Steen/Stein Tweedie McBride McEwan Pate/Peat Brown Somerville Bishop Farier/Ferrier Wood  Torrance Gibb Ross Dunlop Downs Richardson Ramsey Story Snaddon/Sneddon Auld Allan McLean McInnes Mason Law Lawson Kerr Cockburn Christie Ballingall Wardrope Weir Wallace Scott.
IRELAND: Welsh Clifford Lee Allingham Keane Dale Robinson Greer McVey Bingham Skelton Carson Broomfield Clark McEwan/McKeown McCreary McLaughlan.
YORKSHIRE: Cudworth Smith Cope Coulton Hainsworth

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I am interested in the significance of the black ribbon tying the hands and fingers - does anyone know what this means?

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Re: Body of beheaded man1600s Nuneaton Can this archival record assist researchers?
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 04 July 12 11:35 BST (UK) »
I would think that as the body was embalmed & herbs etc. placed in the coffin that there was a period of lying in where the body could be viewed.It may be tying hands & thumbs was just a way of holding the arms across the chest.Black ribbon was a bit more dignified that string.
There was also a black ribbon round his neck to hide the cut.
The article said he had a brown pointed beard & brown hair suggesting he was quite young.

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Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/