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Birth parents of Thomas Henry Hall b. 5 Apr 1824
« on: Sunday 01 July 12 13:03 BST (UK) »
I am trying to determine the exact names and details about the parents of Thomas Henry Hall who was born on 5 April 1824 in Leeds and hopefully earlier generations. I note from some records that his parents were William and Mary Hall, but there are more than one couple with these christian names. I would like to get some steer on how to determine his mother's maiden name and the birth details of both of his parents and hopefully earlier generations, and once I have these, whether he had siblings. If someone could assist me with where to go for records that could help me determine this, it would be most welcomed. On Thomas' baptism certificate it states that his father was a Wool Stapler. My guess at this stage is that quite possibly both his parents were from Leeds too, but that is a guess.

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Re: Birth parents of Thomas Henry Hall b. 5 Apr 1824
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 July 12 13:40 BST (UK) »
I cant help much here but for others trying to help;
Thomas was born 05 April 1824 but not christened til 26 May 1844, Birstall St Peter, Parents William/Mary, Fathers Occp Wool Stapler

Mother Mary appears on the 1851 Census with Thos as born c 1788 Cotterick, Yorks.
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Re: Birth parents of Thomas Henry Hall b. 5 Apr 1824
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 01 July 12 13:49 BST (UK) »
Trish, could Cotterick not be Catterick?
Catterick being home to the famous Catterick Garrison (millitary camp)
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Re: Birth parents of Thomas Henry Hall b. 5 Apr 1824
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 July 12 17:09 BST (UK) »
Yes that is quite possible just misheard by enumerator :)
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Re: Birth parents of Thomas Henry Hall b. 5 Apr 1824
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 July 12 09:16 BST (UK) »
Thank you to those who provided information. I suspect the baptism some 20 years later in 1844 after his birth in 1824 could be a transcription error. Shame his parents had such common christian names.
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Re: Birth parents of Thomas Henry Hall b. 5 Apr 1824
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 July 12 12:07 BST (UK) »
Adult Baptisms are not as uncommon as you would think.
Do you have his M/C to confirm his Fathers name/occp ?

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Re: Birth parents of Thomas Henry Hall b. 5 Apr 1824
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 July 12 19:33 BST (UK) »
I do have the marriage certificate for Thomas Henry Hall to Eliza Milner (both of Bradford). They were married on 19 January 1853 at the Parish Church in the Parish of Bradford. On the certificate it states that Thomas' father was William Hall, who was a Wool Stapler. Eliza's father was William Milner, Cloth Manufacturer. No mention of either father being deceased at the time of the wedding but that may not mean a great deal.
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Re: Birth parents of Thomas Henry Hall b. 5 Apr 1824
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 03 July 12 00:20 BST (UK) »
I have just noticed the 1851c Mary Hall widow with son Tom Henry

If the Birtstall late adult baptism is correct 1844 of Thomas Henry Hall parents Willaim and Mary Hall

Father William dead by 1851c and poss could have been alive 1844, also being a trades man in Wool, this could mean he may have left a Will/probate between 1844 and say probate date up to 1853



In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth

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Re: Birth parents of Thomas Henry Hall b. 5 Apr 1824
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 03 July 12 00:35 BST (UK) »
2 possible bapts

William Hall
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
 christening: 25 Dec 1790 BIRSTALL,​YORK,​ENGLAND
 parents: Mary Hall
 
 
William Hall
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
 christening: 02 Dec 1792 BIRSTALL,​YORK,​ENGLAND
 parents: William Hall
 
 
In my opinion the marriage residence is not always the place of birth. Never forget Workhouse and overseers accounts records of birth