Martha McCammon and family 1910

[Johnston mccammon]

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Nancy and Ann seem to be interchangeable as Christian names and I've found that Agnes and Nancy also seem to be interchangeable, at least in Scotland.  Agnes/Nancy are most likely the same person.

Debbie

[Johnston mccammon]

Thank you. That information is extremely useful. was it common the n to use both names at different times because the census in 1901 and 1911 has the female head as Nancy in 1901 and then Agnes in 1911.

[valeriec]

for others looking at this thread

www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

This is the site for the 1901 and 1911 Census for Ireland.

1901 Antrim/Portglanone/Kilcurry
house 1 in Kilcurry
has McCammon
William, head, 42
Nancy, wife, 40
Nancy, mother of William, 89
Jane, 15
Nancy, 12
Martha Ann, 10
Ellen, 9
Maggie, 7
William James, 3
Eliza, 1

1911 Census/Antrim/Portglenone/Kilcurry
house 29 in Kilcurry
McCammon, Agnes, head, 53, married, married 26 years, 9 children born and 9 children living
Martha, daughter, 20
Ellen, ", 18
Margaret, ", 16
William, son, 13
Lizzie, daughter, 11
Racheal, ", 9

This accounts for 8 of the 9 children.

William doesn't show up on the census in Ireland that I could find but Agnes lists herself as head and married.

[JaneyCanuck]

If Martha was travelling to her father in Winnipeg in May 1911, that's very probably where he was at the time of the 1911 Irish census, I might think.

The problem with the 1911 Cdn census is the generally appalling transcriptions, especially for an unusual name like McCammon. Ancestry allows fuzzy searches and searches without surnames, for example, but http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/index.jsp which generally has better transcriptions only allows exact and soundex surname searches, which can completely miss someone badly mistranscribed.

On very quick searches at both places I haven't come up with anybody, but it could be worth more intensive efforts.

[JaneyCanuck]

This looks like daughter Rachel who was in the 1911 Irish census:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8CN-844
(if you sign in you can see the image)

died 1935 in Cleveland Ohio US
aged 29, est birth year 1906
single, occupation saleslady
father William McCammon
> mother Nancy Lamont
both parents born Ireland


And daughter Margaret/Maggie:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8V3-9VM
(marriage licence application with marriage certificate attached - image can be viewed there)

married Edward P St John in Franklin, Ohio
aged 27, est birth year 1899
born Ireland
father Wm Mccammon
> mother Agnes Lamont


So yes, Nancy=Agnes.

And it looks like at least some of the family ended up in Ohio by the mid-1920s.

[valeriec]

http://automatedgenealogy.com

allows you to search both under surname or for example go to Mainitoba, then to Winnipeg and search all surnames beginning with M or any other letter. It also allows you to pick other surnames and merge them.

You can also view the original documents for free.

www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databaes/index-e.html

You can access the 1916 census through Microform digitization at Library and Archives Canada and using the info from family search, can usually find the original documents as well. It just takes a bit of time.

One of the alternate surnames to look at is McAmmond. Family search will also bring up Cameron when doing a search through them.

[JaneyCanuck]

http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php

You can search for marriages up to 80 years ago and deaths up to 70 years ago.

Martha's 1913 marriage to Richard Johnston is there. The "detailed view" doesn't give any more info, e.g. parents' details.

I don't suppose William "re"married in Winnipeg??

There is the marriage of a William Millard McCammon in Winnipeg in 1912.

Or could this perhaps be the eldest child of William and Nancy/Agnes, not seen in the 1901 or 1911 and perhaps the first to go to Canada?
-edit - nope, I forgot there was a son William James in 1901, aged 3, so not that.

[JaneyCanuck]

just fixing valeriec's url

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/index-e.html

1911 census
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1911/index-e.html
1906 census of Northwest provinces
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/census-1906/index-e.html
(neither is searchable by name so it's a bit of a monumental task)

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action
shows a Wm Mccammon travelling Liverpool to Halifax in 1910
(I think the second record shown is a duplicate)
I'm not finding it on a quick search at collectionscanada
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/immigration-1925/001012-100.01-e.php

[Johnston mccammon]

Please forgive me for not using this site and replying as is polite to each but I normally don't use chat sites. This site and all of you on this site have been amazing. Thank you so much for all of your assistance.
William likely did come to Canada for at least a while to work. The railway in Winnipeg was providing much needed stable work. Reason both the McCammons and Johnstons were there. Martha stated she was going to her father . She landed up working in Alberta for a while at the Banff Springs hotel. This is family verbal history. There is no reason to believe he divorced and remarried. I will be taking out the dates of death for both Nancy Agnes and William as they are not verifiable.
Again many thanks to you all!