Help with disappearing rellies please

[Jan Ann]

HiYall

Hoping some of you clever peeps can help me solve a mystery.

Mary Ann Binns born 1860 Almondbury, Huddersfield, West Yorks - D/o Jonathan Stanley Binns and Elizabeth Garner.

In the 1881 census she is a domestic servant  in Dalton in Huddersfield. I cannot find a marriage for her in England & Wales though her partner's name was Walter William Segrove (Occupation Barman) - this name and occupation is given on their childrens baptisms;

By 1891 both Mary Ann and Walter William have disappeared, though I cannot find a death or remarriage for either of them 

The evidence I have is as follows:

in 1883 they were in Bermondsey, London (Surrey?) I know this because their daughter Beatrice Olive E Segrove was born, followed in 1884 by their son William George G Segrove (Born 30 Apr 1884). William George was baptized at St Peter's Church Huddersfield, his younger sister died in Huddersfield 1884 aged 1.  There was then another son Frederick Alfred born Huddersfield 08 May 1887 baptized 5th Feb 1888;

By 1891 both sons are with Mary's relatives - William George is with her brother and two sisters (William Henry, Clara Amelia & Alice Louisa Binns) Frederick Alfred is with her Aunt Caroline Louisa (nee Binns) and uncle Alfred Arthur - he is listed as adopted son.

By 1901 both sons reside with the now widowed Alfred Arthur and BOTH are listed as adopted son to Alfred.

The Binns family did have quite a few emigratees (is that a Word )to the US in the 1880's and I am wondering if Mary Ann and Walter William died abroad or at sea and the children were sent back to live with her relatives?

They just seem to have disappeared

I would like help looking for a marriage for the couple and tracing what happened to them.

Let me know your thoughts please peeps ?

Cheers
Jan 

[Just Jane]

There is a possible marriage between Walter William Segrove and May Gertrude Skelly in 1995 in Islington.   In the 1901 census they are manager and manageress of what seems to be a pub in St Pancras, which would fit in with his previous occupation of barman.

I'll see if I can find either him or Mary Ann Binns in 1891.

Jane

[Just Jane]

Walter is on his own as a lodger in Newington in 1891, a bus conductor.

Jane

[mosiefish]

He was also down as single  in 1891.  In the 1881 census his surname has been transcribed as Lerone. He was a 17 year old Wine Merchants Assistant.  In all three census he was born Hedsor, Bucks.

Mo

[Jan Ann]

Thanks Jane

I did see that and wondered if he was the same Walter  - it was common for a father to leave children with relatives if he had been widowed -

If it is the correct Walter William there is a baptism on the IGI for him in Hedsor, Bucks - the son of George and Olive - which would tie in with his childrens names (Beatrice Olive and William George)
Thanks for your help Jane and mosiefish,
Cheers
 :-*Jan

[coombs]

It is a good idea to keep emigration as an explanation for someone who seems to just disappear, one of the ideas anyway, esp during census and BMD reg era.