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Irish Citzenship by Decent-by percentage
« on: Friday 29 June 12 01:45 BST (UK) »
I am writing to inquire if any of you have any information regarding citizenship by decent.

As I mentioned in another thread, I have 2 great grandparents who were off the boat from Ireland. (Deceased.)

I was looking into the aforementioned topic and I noted that if your grandparent was born in Ireland you can claim it, but if your great grandparent was born there, your parent has to have claimed it prior to your birth.  Now I was wondering if there is any way to claim it by percentage.

I ask about percentage, because by such I have an equivalent percentage as if a grandparent was actually born there.  The work out is as follows:  2 Great-Grandparents from Ireland=100% Irish grandmother=50% Irish parent=25% Irish me.  Where as if 1 grandparent from Ireland=50% Irish parent=25% Irish me.  Either way I work out to be the same percentage heritage.

I realise that in general that great-grandparents are considered to be too distant, however there is a major difference between 1 great grandparent ergo a 50% Irish grandparent and so on, and a 100% Irish grandparent...

I do realise that this is rather non-standard.  However it would be useful should I decide to take a Gap-year in Ireland..

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Re: Irish Citzenship by Decent-by percentage
« Reply #1 on: Friday 29 June 12 01:53 BST (UK) »
I am guessing the answer to your question would be "No" .... but surely you would be able to take a gap year in Ireland without citizenship as a requirement? Have you investigated availablility of various visas which may enable extended stays/employment in the country?

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Re: Irish Citzenship by Decent-by percentage
« Reply #2 on: Friday 29 June 12 01:56 BST (UK) »
Most certainly, however should I eventually decide to own property and such it makes things much easier, no?

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Re: Irish Citzenship by Decent-by percentage
« Reply #3 on: Friday 29 June 12 02:09 BST (UK) »
I don't think it could work by percentages.

Say that someone traced many of their 5x great grandparents, and found that about half of them were born in Ireland. They might then say "I'm 50% Irish" (even though they're not really Irish at all).

That's not the same as having one Irish parent, which is also "50% Irish".

The line has to be drawn somewhere, and from your post it looks like it is at grandparents.


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Re: Irish Citzenship by Decent-by percentage
« Reply #4 on: Friday 29 June 12 02:17 BST (UK) »
5 great grandparents? How do you have an odd number? lol... 

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Re: Irish Citzenship by Decent-by percentage
« Reply #5 on: Friday 29 June 12 05:39 BST (UK) »
5 great grandparents? How do you have an odd number? lol... 

"5x great grandparents" is just a more compact way to say great great great great great grandparents.

Do you have to be Irish to own property in Ireland? I'm not sure, but I'm sure you could find out easy enough through a bit of googling. Not sure where you are in the world but there may be different visa and property owning requirements depending on your place of birth? Scrap that, I checked your other post and see that you are in the USA as I suspected.  ;)

Assuming you are male (Brendan?), maybe you should marry an Irish girl.  ;)

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Re: Irish Citzenship by Decent-by percentage
« Reply #6 on: Friday 29 June 12 05:46 BST (UK) »
Having a quick look here:
http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/
it looks like you can apply for naturalisation if you meet their requirements.

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Re: Irish Citzenship by Decent-by percentage
« Reply #7 on: Friday 29 June 12 07:25 BST (UK) »
First requirement is Foreign Births Registration. You can download the application form. You need proof of birth in Ireland of your grandparents (baptism or civil registration). Civil marriage cert if available. Death certificate. You need to go to your nearest Irish Diplomatic or Consular Mission. Moya

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Re: Irish Citzenship by Decent-by percentage
« Reply #8 on: Friday 29 June 12 10:13 BST (UK) »
The rules are quite simple- you need to have at least 1 Irish-born grandparent to claim Irish citizenship.

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http://www.dfa.ie/home/index.aspx?id=80823
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!