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Robert Henry Flowers
« on: Thursday 28 June 12 10:40 BST (UK) »
Robert Henry Flowers, b. Brighton, Sussex, 1870; to New Zealand mid-1880's with mother, Caroline, and siblings; worked as an ironmonger's assistant; served as a Methodist Home Missionary 1900-1902; moved to Canada 1907; recorded as auctioneer, New Westminster, BC in 1910; nothing since then except that he had probably married Ann ...  pre-1910. Can anyone offer any subsequent history - would be particularly interested to have his (1) death date and place (exact) (2) record of his marriage, (3) what his later employment was.

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Re: Robert Henry Flowers
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 June 12 11:44 BST (UK) »
Just to put you in the picture, incase you haven't come across the entry - There is a family tree entry that says Robert Henry Flowers son of Robert Flowers and Caroline Elisabeth Adams married Nora Patrie Breeden/Dame in Illinois. USA.  ???

There is a marriage record on the family search site but does not show his parents, also gives year of birth as 1875  ???

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N7C5-T4B

A Robert H Flowers (Born 1870) did immigrate 1908 and was living in Chicago Ward 21, Cook, Illinois in 1910

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MKZ8-B7S

Looks like Nora was a widow in 1920 Galesburg Ward 1, Knox, Illinois and died 8th Jan 1943 Cook County. Illinois.

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Re: Robert Henry Flowers
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 June 12 11:53 BST (UK) »
Also mentioning this family of Flowers at 1009 8th Andy Westminster. British Columbia in 1910 but they immigrated directly from the UK. Robert was born in January 1870 England but occupation was accountant, so they don't look like yours.

Robert Flowers 41  Mannie Flowers 32
Bessie Flowers 12  Robart Flowers 8  John Flowers 7  Mollie Flowers 3  Manniel Flowers 1

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Re: Robert Henry Flowers
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 June 12 12:01 BST (UK) »
Where did you see the reference of Robert being recorded as an auctioneer in New Westminster. BC in 1910 ?

Can see a Robert M Flowers on a Canadian Passenger List from Liverpool to Montreal. Quebec. Robert born 1870 and aged 37 years travelling on the Dominion. Occupation Ironmongers Asst., Going to Toronto.

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Re: Robert Henry Flowers
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 June 12 16:18 BST (UK) »
Had another glance at Canadian Passenger Lists - there is a Robert Flowers born about 1870 and aged 40 years who travelled Le Havre. Frannce to St Johns. New Brunswick, arriving 12 February 1910  on the Corinthian. Robert was married and had never been in Canada before. Going to New Westminster BC. Occupation in country from whence came was Auctioneer. Planned occupation:- same.

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Re: Robert Henry Flowers
« Reply #5 on: Friday 29 June 12 01:24 BST (UK) »
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Re: Robert Henry Flowers
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 November 12 04:00 GMT (UK) »
This entry from Sandra is quoting from my tree.  If you want to ask me more about this particular Robert Henry Flowers,   and my research about him, email me at (*) 
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Quote from: *Sandra* on Thursday 28 June 12 11:44 BST (UK)
Just to put you in the picture, incase you haven't come across the entry - There is a family tree entry that says Robert Henry Flowers son of Robert Flowers and Caroline Elisabeth Adams married Nora Patrie Breeden/Dame in Illinois. USA.  ???

There is a marriage record on the family search site but does not show his parents, also gives year of birth as 1875  ???

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N7C5-T4B

A Robert H Flowers (Born 1870) did immigrate 1908 and was living in Chicago Ward 21, Cook, Illinois in 1910

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MKZ8-B7S

Looks like Nora was a widow in 1920 Galesburg Ward 1, Knox, Illinois and died 8th Jan 1943 Cook County. Illinois.

Sandra

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Re: Robert Henry Flowers
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 November 12 00:07 GMT (UK) »
Robert Henry Flowers is the widow of E.Elliott
Pond Mills, London, Middlesex,Finding aid     MX - LC  758

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Re: Robert Henry Flowers
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 November 12 05:35 GMT (UK) »
Okay, as someone new to this site, it appears that I need to put more messages up before I can  use the PM faciility, and my email has been removed, which is fair enough.  I'll post more info about Robert Henry Flowers here:

Robert Henry Flowers was born in the first quarter of 1870 in Brighton, Sussex, England. he was the son of Robert Flowers (1842- Unknown date of death) and Caroline Elisabeth Flowers nee Adams (1847-1929).  His 8 siblings were all born in England with the exception of the youngest who was born in Riverton New Zealand. He was the thrid child, and eldest son.

Robert Henry Flowers was about 10 when he immigrated from England to New Zealand with his family, on the "Mataura" - a fully sail-rigged steam ship that was very modern for its time. The family settled in Riverton, where they lived, according to family oral history, in quite a large home. However, Robert Senior, (Robert Henry's father) disappeared around about 1885 - it is not currently known where to, but my father used to tell me that his grandfather was 'killed in the bush at Riverton' but he admitted not long belong he died that his grandfather had actually just taken off and left his family.

Robert Henry grew into a very personable young man, and  became a minister of religion - I think possibly methodist, but I cannot be sure.  I have a delightful photograph of him in a boater hat.  According to NZ electoral roles he lived in the South Island area of "Wallace" (where Riverton is) but he may well have lived in another town in that area.

 He left to live in the USA in 1908 at aged 38.

I will continue in another post...

Quote from: Sonia White on Monday 12 November 12 04:00 GMT (UK)
This entry from Sandra is quoting from my tree.  If you want to ask me more about this particular Robert Henry Flowers,   and my research about him, email me at (*) 
Regards
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Quote from: *Sandra* on Thursday 28 June 12 11:44 BST (UK)
Just to put you in the picture, incase you haven't come across the entry - There is a family tree entry that says Robert Henry Flowers son of Robert Flowers and Caroline Elisabeth Adams married Nora Patrie Breeden/Dame in Illinois. USA.  ???

There is a marriage record on the family search site but does not show his parents, also gives year of birth as 1875  ???

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N7C5-T4B

A Robert H Flowers (Born 1870) did immigrate 1908 and was living in Chicago Ward 21, Cook, Illinois in 1910

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MKZ8-B7S

Looks like Nora was a widow in 1920 Galesburg Ward 1, Knox, Illinois and died 8th Jan 1943 Cook County. Illinois.

Sandra

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