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Re: Illegitimate Child
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 27 June 12 09:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Nettie
Interesting about that surname not being changed, hence my wanting to look at Brown's to start with as we have no other clues.

The other person on GRU would be one of my husband's cousins. 

We have often wondered if someone will one day track down the family and announce themselves but it might be difficult since they immigrated to Australia in 1950. 

Will keep searching.

Thanks all.

Any other suggestions gratefully accepted.

Deanne
Hanchant/Hanchett: Herts, Essex (all counties as all related)
Hanchant, Gillespie, Williams : South Africa
Nichols: Norfolk
Middleton: Kent
Little: Gloucestershire
Lander: Glasgow
Brown: Glasgow
Collison: Ireland
Meeres, Burke : Canada
Bagnell:

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Re: Illegitimate Child
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 27 June 12 09:19 BST (UK) »

I do know that if Agnes had a child prior to marriage then Agnes name would be on the birth certficate, but if said child has been adopted then the records would probably be sealed.

If the records are sealed I,m not 100 per sure but I think someone like an intermediate has to look at them.

If you do look on scotlands people I would look for births from 1936 to 1942 as Agnes would have been 18 in 1936 and I would start with Govan first.

Its funny how families know things as my husband and his brother were never told anything about thier sister by my mother in law and then out of the blue we got a phone call from my husbands cousin in NZ who we had never met or spoke to (she had managed to track us down after doing family research) about 5 years ago and she mentioned that there was something about my mother in law having a daughter when she was younger.
As I said we found out three years ago that this was correct.  :)
Bramwell -  Derbyshire and Bolton
Pottinger -  Gloucestershire, Berkshire
James- Gloucestershire
Rawley, Wheeler - Middlesex
Nicholls, Nichols -  Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire
Lee, Porter - Cambridgeshire, Bedfordshire, Hertfordshire
Bowers, Coxall, Coe, Dawkins, Hawkins, Horspoole, Rule - Cambridgeshire
Stoughton - Bedfordshire
Stewart - Stirlingshire,  Glasgow and Edingburgh
Tulloch - Orkney Islands
Liddell - Stirlingshire, Lanarkshire
Tulloch, Wilson, Stevenson, Baxter, Muir, Boag - Scotland

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Re: Illegitimate Child
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 27 June 12 09:29 BST (UK) »
Deanne ,

There are 1400 Brown births in Lanark 1940 - 1943
You might want to keep that in mind before ordering any certificates
Also nothing to say that any possible child may have been born before 1940 and born outside Lanark

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Re: Illegitimate Child
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 27 June 12 10:02 BST (UK) »
If the father accepted responsibility for an illegitimate child would the birth be registered in the father's surname c1940s?


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Re: Illegitimate Child
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 27 June 12 10:39 BST (UK) »
The 1943 marriage took place in Govan

The child may have been raised by paternal grandparents

Any relatives still in Scotland who could check for possible births at a genealogy centre?

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Re: Illegitimate Child
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 27 June 12 11:32 BST (UK) »
No, unfortunately there are no relatives left in Scotland now (well that we know of anyway).

Hanchant/Hanchett: Herts, Essex (all counties as all related)
Hanchant, Gillespie, Williams : South Africa
Nichols: Norfolk
Middleton: Kent
Little: Gloucestershire
Lander: Glasgow
Brown: Glasgow
Collison: Ireland
Meeres, Burke : Canada
Bagnell:

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Re: Illegitimate Child
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 27 June 12 11:47 BST (UK) »
Do you have her marriage record to see her address?

When and where did her parents die?

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Re: Illegitimate Child
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 27 June 12 12:48 BST (UK) »
If the father accepted responsibility for an illegitimate child would the birth be registered in the father's surname c1940s?

Yes but ...

.... the father's name would only be on the birth certificate if either (a) he accompanied the mother to the registrar's and signed the certificate alongside her when she went to register the birth or (b) he was subsequently found to be the father in a court action for paternity. It is quite possible that the entire parish knew who the father of an illegitimate child was, but only in these circumstances will he be named on the birth certificate.

There is no restriction on naming putative fathers on the marriage and death certificates of illegitimate children.
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Re: Illegitimate Child
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 27 June 12 12:56 BST (UK) »
So in effect there is a possibility that the child's surname may not be Brown and this makes searching even more difficult