Eliza Smith (Hansler)nothing before 1863 or is there?

[pompeyboy]

I have a Eliza Smith born q4 1863 in Portsea who married a James Henry Hansler in q4 1883..that is no problem nor anything post these dates..it is Eliza's family pre her marriage that i am looking for..been through all available censuses ie 1841-1881 and can't find a sausage(then again not looking for a sausage )except maybe one family in the Scottish census..hoping a new pair of eyes will be able to help..would be much appreciated.

Regards

Steve

[emarbe]

Hi Steve

Have you got any family first names as there are several possibles?.

Mike

[pompeyboy]

Hiya Mike..aha thats the problem..got nothing that i know of for her family..the surname doesn't help does it

Steve

[Seoras]

Hi pompeyboy,does the marriage give her father's name.I can see a christening for an Annie Eliza Smith,St.Mary's Portsea 24 July 1864,father James,mother Jane.

[pompeyboy]

Seoras..no afraid it doesn't..got the marriage from the usual options..ie freebmd..A......y etc.....have checked Knightroots but couldnt find anything on there neither....short of a cert don't now where else to go..will check the '71 census again with your info just in case.

Regards

Steve

[Seoras]

The family I mentioned are in Portsea 1871 with Annie Eliza enumerated as anne.That marriage cert may be your best option though.

[pompeyboy]

Think you may be right there Seoras..many thanks.

Steve

[Little Nell]

You seem very certain of Eliza's birth date - the last quarter of 1863.  If you don't have any official certificate, but are relying on census information, there may be the possibility or error.    Many Elizas were in fact Elizabeth and vice versa - they just love to make life difficult for us - and there are a number of Elizabeth Smiths, as well as Eliza Smiths (with a middle name) where the birth is registered in Portsea RD at around that time.

There are two possible brides for James Henry Hansler in 1883 - Eliza Smith and Eliza Ann Thomas.  Have you established that it was definitely Eliza Smith who married James Hansler? From a birth certificate of one of the children perhaps, since you don't have the marriage certificate?

An Eliza Ann Thomas was born in Portsea RD in the June qtr of 1862. 

I too think that the marriage certificate is the best option on this one.

Nell

[pompeyboy]

Thank you Nell...some good points worthy of consideration...a cert on order by the look of it..thank you

Steve