Married in the church before it was built?

[northernsearcher]

Hi lynnej and Janis

Thank you both for your efforts and clarifications.  I have sent an email to N&DFHS to see if having a membership will help me get to individual records or if I still have to buy them.  I got a bit confused looking at the website as it seemed to suggest that they did not have records for St Peters Monkwearmouth in 1838.

I will let you know what the reply says.

Jen

[Craclyn]

NDFHS membership does not give online access to any individual records. It gives you the opportunity to use their archives in Newcastle. It also gives you the option to use their forum and mailing list which might put you in touch with someone who has useful info or can do a lookup.

They have quite a few booklets of MIs etc for sale which are useful. Just be aware that it is easier to buy them from the online store than physically at Percy House. I have twice tried to buy publications while I was there and found it was easier to come home to Norway and order them through the post. They have a chap who has to come in and print the booklet after it is ordered and apparently he is the only one who knows how to do it

[2zpool]

Maybe you are not looking in the right place.  They have Monkwearmouth Bapt, Mar, Bur 1813-1839 (this does include 1838) on fiche and on CD--only on CD they separate the parts and charge more than having all three on one set of fiche.  On CD there is also Bishopwearmouth

Look under "Online Sales Publicaltions of the former Original Indexes"--the 5th item down on the list on the home page

Janis

[northernsearcher]

Hello all
Many thanks again.

I said I would report back when I got a reply from N&DFHS and I have to say that I have a reply already - same day - which I think is impressive.  Also the person who replied gave me a very detailed and fair answer to my question about membership.

Craclyn you are right membership doesn't give access to individual records -suppose it was a bit optimistic of me to expect that.  To used to using Family Search!

Janis thanks again will try the Original Indexes which I ignored.

I suppose the problem is that with people I am not confident that I have got right I try to get at least two different sources and then I am more confident that its right.

And now one final, probably very silly question.  Wouldn't I need a reader for a fiche?

Jen

[2zpool]

Who are you looking for and what record?  Hints of area, census?  I am willing to try to find this person.

I got my fiche reader--built into a briefcase--on eBay.  Better to go to the site of the country you live as the electric supply will be easier without adaptor plugs.

Janis

[northernsearcher]

Janis thank you so much for your kind offer - where to start! 
The family I have been working on recently are the Burn/ Bainbridge /Douglass ancestors.
John Burn (4th G Grand father b. about 1782 in Berwick Northumberland). You gave me his death date at the beginning of this post.  John married Elizabeth Bainbridge in 1815. They had at least 9 children:       Elizabeth BURN (b.1816)
Sarah BURN (b.1817)
Isabella BURN (b.1819)
John BURN (b.1821)
William BURN (b.1823)
Charles BURN (b.1825)
Ann Storey BURN (b.1828)
Walter Bainbridge BURN (b.1831)
Mary Ann Storey BURN (b.1833)

Elizabeth married William Holt Douglass b. 1813 and they had 10 children:
John DOUGLASS (b.1836)
Elizabeth Bainbridge DOUGLASS (b.183
Sarah Burn DOUGLASS (1839 - 1841)
JOHN BURN DOUGLASS (1841 - 1887)
Sarah Ann DOUGLASS (b.1843)
Mary Jane DOUGLASS (b.1845)
Isabella DOUGLASS (b.1848)
Charles W DOUGLASS (b.1853)
William Holt DOUGLASS, Jr (b.1857)
Alfred DOUGLASS (1859 - 1863)
John Burn Douglass is the direct line of these children

I have been trying to find a christening for William Holt Douglass (b. 1813) and also parents without any success  Williams mother is living with the family on the 1861c at 4 Brougham St Bishopwearmouth.  She is called Elizabeth and lists her birth place as Biddick.

I wondered if she might be a Holt but can't find her.  I thought if I had a transcript of Williams marriage or christening I might get to his parents.  William and Elizabeth were married on the 11 Jul. 1835 Monkwearmouth - don't know which church.

There is also a Presbyterian connection. Both generations of children  -John and Elizabeths and William and Elizabeths were christened Bridge Road - Scotch church.

Sorry if this was really long. I hope it makes sense.
Thank you again Jen

[stanmapstone]

William Douglas and Elizabeth Burn were married in Monkwearmouth Parish Church  11th July 1835. Under Harwicke's 1753 Marriage Act all valid marriages, except for Jews and Quakers, had to be in a C of E  Church licensed for the publication of Banns. This was the law until the introduction of Civil Registration, 1st July 1837.

Stan

[northernsearcher]

Thank you for that Stan. And probably a silly question is that St Peters church or All Saints.

Jen

[stanmapstone]

The parish church of Monkwearmouth was St. Peter's.

Stan