Are all uk WW1 veterans entitled to a war grave

[Valda]

Hi

Buried in a paupers grave and buried in a common grave aren't quite the same thing and our ancestors would largely be appalled that we thought they were. They scrimped and saved where they could to make sure the funeral and burial were paid for and their loved ones did not receive a pauper's funeral. What they couldn't afford was the cost of the burial plot as well. With cremation nowadays so popular subsequent burial in common graves isn't the necessity it once was because the cost of a burial plot would still be beyond the means of many families - they aren't cheap.

Types of graves in cemeteries (information from Beckett Street Cemetery Leeds)

http://beckettstreetcemetery.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=1

Was he buried by the poor law guardians or an institution if he was placed in one and not by his family?

Any stigma around the burials of suicides historically was only ever for suicides that were deemed to have taken their lives while of sound mind. Coroner's juries were very sympathetic and rarely brought in this judgement so there was absolutely no issue with burials for suicides who were not deemed felons - the felony of taking a life, which was always a minority of suicides. Even these suicides were allowed the right to burials in churchyards by an 1823 law and a full burial service was legally allowed by 1882.

See the last post on this topic for further information on suicide burials.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,403492.30.html


Regards

Valda

[t mo]

 i feel i have to respond to one comment made regarding suicide while of sound mind  it seems to me to be a sweeping statement how can any poor soul be deemed of sound mind when in the act of taking there own life as most of these acts are not premeditated but an act of desperation and for relief from whatever ails them .
regards
trevor

ps meathmitchell may i say that if you are serious regarding placing some sort of marker on the chaps grave then i applaude your action no one should go unnoticed especially when having served there country .

[Valda]

Hi

Felo de se was the legal term

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felo_de_se


It wasn't a comment by me as in a personal opinion, but a statement of fact on how previous societies' viewed suicide. It wasn't until 1961 that suicide was decriminalised and failed suicides no longer had the possibility of facing prosecution. This was still happening in the 1950s as illustrated in the second link with some people actually going to prison for their 'crime'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_Act_1961
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14374296


Regards

Valda

[t mo]

hi valda
so sorry i didn,t make myself clear enough in that i wasn,t in anyway saying that what you had posted was a personal comment  , as i had realised you were only stating facts and nothing more .
my apologise you thought differently .
best wishes
trevor