Name the pub

[Trees]

an anyone identify this pub please
RG11/2430 fo 44 p13
1 Alfred Place Twerton Somerset
John Bale Inn Keeper
Does that address still exist?
I hope some one can help 
Trees

[Ruskie]

amended

[Ruskie]

I think the whole area is gone. 

I will look further, but I think the area where Alfred Place used to might be around where PC World and Somer Community Housing Trust Buildings are today. All new builds I'm afraid. 

The enumeration district was bounded by Lower Bristol Road to the south (still there today), the River Avon to the north (still there today), Mill Lane to the west. (I'm not yet sure exactly where that was but there is still a Twerton Mill which may have been on Mill Lane?), and Dredgers Bridge Road to the east (hard to say where that was - perhaps what is now Fieldings Road which leads to a bridge crossing the river?).

There are very few roads mentioned in the enumeration district - Longmead St is one which appears to be quite long but I haven't located it as yet. There are lots of 'Buildings', Villas and houses named but nothing that can be used as a landmark to identify where Alfred Place used to stand. It was obviously on a corner though as you'd expect of a pub numbered "1". 

I have to go out now, but will do some more digging later.

[Trees]

Many thanks for that you are narrowing the area down nicely which will help when we can get hold of an old map I wonder if the Licenccing recognaisances are available at the RO we have not been to Taunton since the new RO opened but its on the list of places to get to 
Cheers
Trees

[[Ray]]

Hi

Buried in Kevan's Deadpubs.co.uk is

(1902) Golden Fleece, G. O. King, 1 Avon buildings, Twerton, Bath

You don't suppose 1 Avon Buildngs is also 1 Alfred Place?

Ray
 

[Yorkslass]

Hi Trees,

I looked at the Historical Newspapers site, and there's a snippet from the Bristol Mercury dated 11 April 1892 -

From the County Police Court report  -  "John Bale of Twerton pleaded guilty to refusing to quit the Charmbury Arms, but denied assaulting William Slip, the Landlord on the 2nd inst.  The Magistrates dismissed the case of assault, but for the refusal to quit, imposed on Bale a fine of 20s to cover costs, or 14 days"

That pub is still there - but not the one from the census I think.

There was also a report in an earlier paper (25 September 1882) about John Bale being refused the renewal of a licence in Twerton, but unfortunately doesn't name the pub.

Yorkslass

[Trees]

Oh wow that is interesting I wonder if it was the Golden Fleece I wonder if Kevan has any more information on it and was John Bale a drunkard leading to that assult and the reason for not having his licence renewed. He was only a first cousin 4 times removed but I seem to collect pubs

[[Ray]]

Hi

Longmead Terrace was (is) the part next to the birdge at the junction with Brougham Hayes.

Pub and brewery opposite, need to check it against the census route

Link
http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html
1886 Town Plans Bath
Co-ords of 374000 164730 got it for me

(Mr Bales is a labourer in 1891)

Some bits re Golden Fleece (if that's what in was) here
http://www.proudoftwerton.com/index.html

... and having said all of that, not the Golden Fleece?
http://bathpubs.co.uk/tag/golden-fleece/


Ray

[Trees]

PO directory 1876/77 Golden Fleece Fielding's Bldg Joseph REYNOLD so was Fielding's Building become Avon's Building seems unlikely to be two Golden Fleece Inns in Twerton I think the Golden Fleece is the most likely name Ruskie mentioned Fieldings  Road in post 2 so that looks good
Many thanks for your help
Trees