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Morris, Staffordshire
« on: Wednesday 20 June 12 10:12 BST (UK) »
Hello
Please can anybody help?
I am interested in finding Thomas Morris born 1/6/1842 at Brettell Lane. His parents were Thomas Morris, an Engineer and Diana Morris nee Newton.
He married Alice Ward Wilkes in 1864 at Walsall.

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Re: Morris, Staffordshire
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 June 12 12:06 BST (UK) »
Hi

1841 Census living in Kingswinford

Thomas Morris b 1811 Stafforshire Occ Engineer
Deannah Morris b 1811  ditto
Samuel b 1838
Elizabeth b 1840

On the parish  marriage record for Thomas and Diana it states her name was Dianah, so the above seems to fit for the parents of Thomas b 1842 but he is not with them ? where did the information come from for his birth date?

I cannot find another census for Dianah, did she die and Thomas remarried?

I have found other census for Thomas b 1811 Engineer that could be him, but the wife is named Mary?

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Re: Morris, Staffordshire
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 June 12 13:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Rickie

What area is Brettell Lane in

Margp
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Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
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Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
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Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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Re: Morris, Staffordshire
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 June 12 13:41 BST (UK) »
Hi MargP
Thank you for getting back so quick.

I originally got the information regarding Thomas b. 1842 from the census sheets for 1871 and 1881. I then wrote to Dudley District Reg Office giving the details from the census sheets and they sent me the copy of the  birth certificate showing his parents names as Thomas and Diana formerly Newton.
With your help I have now found the 1841 entry and just above it is a Cornelius Newton & family. He could be related to her.

Brettell Lane is in the middle of a triangle formed by Kingswinford, Dudley and Stourbridge. I think it is near Brierley Hill.
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Re: Morris, Staffordshire
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 June 12 14:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Rickie

A possible 1851 Census living in Harborne Staffordshire

Thoams Morris b 1812 Brierley Hill occ Engineer
Mary b 1812 Bristol
Samuel b 1839 S Wales
Thomas b 1843 Brierley Hill
Hanah b 1847 Smethwick
Emma b 1850  ditto

Margp
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
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Parker Stafford.
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Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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Re: Morris, Staffordshire
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 20 June 12 14:22 BST (UK) »
The same family on the 1861 census

Thomas Morris b 1812 Brierley Hill occ Iron Shingler
Mary Morris b 1812         ditto
Samuel b 1838 it says Brierley Hill but I think that have the birth place the wrong way round with Thomas
Thomas b 1842 South Wales
Hannah b 1848 Smethwick

What was Thomas b 1842 occupation
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Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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Re: Morris, Staffordshire
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 20 June 12 14:27 BST (UK) »
Quote from: MargP on Wednesday 20 June 12 12:06 BST (UK)
Hi

1841 Census living in Kingswinford

Thomas Morris b 1811 Stafforshire Occ Engineer
Deannah Morris b 1811  ditto
Samuel b 1838
Elizabeth b 1840

On the parish  marriage record for Thomas and Diana it states her name was Dianah, so the above seems to fit for the parents of Thomas b 1842 but he is not with them ? where did the information come from for his birth date?

I cannot find another census for Dianah, did she die and Thomas remarried?

I have found other census for Thomas b 1811 Engineer that could be him, but the wife is named Mary?

Margp
Sorry having an OAP moment there, he would not have been with them if he was born in 1842
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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Re: Morris, Staffordshire
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 20 June 12 14:38 BST (UK) »
Thank you for all this information. I have also just found the 1861 census.
I have also found 2 deaths for Dinah Morris, that I will have to look at.
The first, which seems most likely, gro ref Dec qtr 1848 but it is in KingsNorton district
Just a sec, this will tie into the 1851 census detail you gave me. Harborne is in the sub district of Kings Norton. The family must have moved there before she died.
Thank you again. I will send for this certificate.
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Rickie

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Re: Morris, Staffordshire
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 20 June 12 14:46 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Sorry I forgot to answer your question about Thomas b. 1842. He was a Shingler in the Iron Industry
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