Miller family in Wexford

[sistera]

  Im so annoyed my pc has been down & out for 4days and only just recieved it,so sorry I could'nt reply to you, thanks so much for this info Roke, I hope Schollagh gets to read this it could be of help to him as well,he also is sorting out the rynehart family. I noticed Jacob and sarah on the form as well, we did'nt know the date of their marriage. Once again cheers to you

[Scollagh]

Yes, I've been in touch with 'Roke' - not quite sure how your Sarah R, born to John R if I recall correctly, fits in yet - needs investigation of Enniscorthy parish records.

[sistera]

  Hi scollagh,good to know your still following this family,a family member sent this doc to me after i sent the info I received from Roke. Sarah Miller daughter of John [a farmer]& Mary Rynhart[a dairy woman]at 19 on the vessel: Hope age 19 jan 1842, so maybe with more investagation. cheers, sorry the files to big to send:doc says:
Sarah Miller
 Married Female Immigrant
A native of Enniscorthy,daughter of John & Mary Rynhart
Farmer
Calling: Dairy Maid
age 19

[sistera]

Hi there,
I've recieved this document from a related member of jacob miller it seems jacob was brn abt: 1818 not 1810 & the parents of jacob{HenryMiller and now we have his wifes name as Elisa[no maiden name].I do'nt understand what the [REL: Epis age 24yrs RW: yes.] on this doc means,it also reads that a Margaret Crofts & Jane Ligo,under his protection.does this mean that Jacob miller being a [Farm svt]was working for them on their property.I hope this sheds some light in helping me to find Henry & Elisa Miller & John & mary Rynehart

[Scollagh]

Hi Sistera,
I think this is a transcription of the original shipping and immigration record of 1842. You can view these originals via the Ancestry site. Jacob Miller is son of Henry & Eliza(beth) Miller of Enniscorthy. Sarah Rynhart is daughter of John & Mary Rynhart of Clonhasten, Enniscorthy - farming family. It looks that Margt. Crofts and Jane Ligo are minors, neighbours of Jacob Miller and travelling under his charge - responsibility. That's way the original reads to me, at any rate!

If you had time, you could search through all the other passengers and see if there are any other relatives of above on board. I see in adjacent family on register that both parents died on board and an 11 year old boy was presumably left orphaned. I'd guess in those situations, other passengers sometimes took minors into their charge as well.

Hope to find out more about these people in due course.

[camlin]

I have only now come across this thread.
I have a hand written transcript of Miller baptismal records from the Church of Ireland parish of Inistioge, Co Kilkenny (which is close to New Ross and Co Wexford).  These include Jacob, baptised 3 April 1814.  He is shown as the son of Henry and Elizabeth.  (Actually the transcript shows "Mary" not "Henry" but as Henry and Elizabeth were having children before and after 1814, I think it safe to make the assumption that a mistake has been made.)
I believe that Elizabeth's maiden name was Flood.
I am descended from Henry's brother, Matthew, whose wife was Elizabeth's sister, Mary, and would be interested in following up a Palatinate connection if there is more information to be had.
As to sistera's query about the words in square brackets, this means: Religion - Episcopalian; age - 24 years; can read and write.

[Scollagh]

This is most intriguing - the plot thickens!! There's a Stephen Rynhart married 1839 to a Mary Miller and who lived at Listerlin, near Inistioge. In same year a Mary Anne Rynhart married a William Miller.

I had at first thought the Millers came from the New Ross/ Inistioge area but then shifted moer to thinking they came from near Enniscorthy as that's where Henry & Eliza Miller are recorded in 1842 - there are also Millers on Abel Ram estate near Gorey in 1813 and 1836.

But it seems from your info, that this Jacob Miller was born Inistioge area and that his parents then must have subsequently moved up to Enniscorthy - a good distance in those days. I wonder could Mary Miller above and possibly William be related to Henry & Elizabeth or to your Matthew Miller?? If she was, it would help explain why Stephen Rynhart moved down (as I think) to that area to live. As an aside, there's also an Eliza Leach or Leech, father Matthew Leach, I think from Killeen near Inistioge who marries a John Rinehart same period, lived at Listerlin and emigrated also to Aus in 1854 - definitely the place to go at the time!!

I've also been in touch with another Miller in Australia, who is descended from a Joseph Miller born 1789 in Wexford who left for England and whose son, Jabez Miller emigrated to Australia. This Joseph would be contemporaneous with Henry Miller and Matthew Miller, I think?

Any insights appreciated - with a bit of collective effort, we might yet unravel!

Barry D

[camlin]

I am afraid that my Miller knowledge is sketchy. I know that my Millers farmed between New Ross and Inistioge and the male descendant is recorded at Ballycocksoost in the 1901 census.
As to Henry (the father of Jacob baptised at Inistioge), I had thought that he might have been the Henry recorded in the Griffith's valuation in the townland of Killeen but he would have been getting on a bit in age.
As regards Enniscorthy, it would be about 20 miles away from where the Millers were farming, well within possible social distance even in the early 1800s.
My oldest known Miller, the father of Matthew and Henry (and  grandfather of Jacob) was probably Henry Miller.  I have no date for him but believe that his sons, Matthew and Henry both married in January 1799.

[Roke]

Just to add to the Miller/Rinehart connection, the children of Stephen Rinehart and Mary Miller moved to Saint John, New Brunswick in Canada in the early 1870s. Two of the Rinehart sons married two Miller girls related to a William Miller who was born about 1805 in County Kilkenny, Ireland and moved to Canada in the 1820s and established a family at Caverhill, New Brunswick, Canada.

There is some curiosity as to whether this William Miller who moved to Canada is related to Mary Miller (about 1816-1885, wife of Stephen Rinehart) and might have influenced the Rinehart children's choice of New Brunswick when they left Ireland.

I have no documentary evidence of any relationship other than William (1805-1881) was born in County Kilkenny and Mary Miller & Stephen Rinehart's family lived in Listerlin Parish, County Kilkenny and then both families ended up in New Brunswick, Canada where they inter-married.

Rich