Miller family in Wexford

[sistera]

Hi there, an overseer is some one who's incharge etc:[foreman, supervisor] I thought it read grazier for jacobs [occupation]on his son matthews b,cert.but I had it checked out & it was overseer, thanks I would really appeciate it if you send me any info on the early years of the miller family   Good luck in your search for the Rynharts, you never know you maybe related to the famous rynhart  billionair family

[Scollagh]

Millionaires!, I don't think so.. small farmers and artisans are more the run of my families  What I have found is, what I thought, as quite a high rate of multiple marraiages between families. I suppose between the fact of the Palatine heritage and also a mostly Protestant heritage, people chose from within a small enough pool. But then, maybe this features generally in rural areas before the 1800's. People were limited by travel in how far they might reach in terms of a spouse, never mind protecting family assets etc.

[sistera]

  Wow multiple marriages, good luck with that.While I was searching for a glady's miller I came across 3 of them all had same parents  different husbands and born same year, different months,I asked a family member about this and was told they were half sister's. my mind boggles 

[Roke]

I am looking for information about a Miller/Rynhart marriage in Wexford too.

Stephen Rinehart/Rynhart married Mary Miller in 1839 in the Diocese of Ferns. but we know nothing else about them except Stephen was born about 1799 and Mary about 1814 and they moved to County Kilkenny where they both died in Listerlin Parish.

They had 5 children all of whom moved to North America. I am descended from their daughter Margaret Jane Rinehart (1860-1924).

Any advice about trying to learn more about Stephen Rinehart/Rynhart and Mary Miller would be most appreciated.

Rich

[shanew147]

the same combination of surnames but the other way 'round than sistera. Neither surname is very common, most Miller households were in Ulster, whilst the Rinehart/Rynhart was much rarer..

Where did the marriage reference originate ? It sounds like something from a marriage license or bond index.

Unfortunately you usually require a more detailed location like the town, townland or parish to start a search - Ferns is a diocese and in these indexes relates to the Church of Ireland Diocese of that name, which covered parts of counties Laois and Wicklow as well as Wexford.

Basically most of the same answers apply to your search as above - see reply #2 onward.

Listerlin, or Listerling as it's sometimes listed, is the name of a civil and Church of Ireland parish - which suggests this family may be CofI..



Shane

[shanew147]

In the Index civil registrations there's just one reference to the death of Stephen Rinhard in 1872, age 72 - which I presume is your Stephen ?

What's interesting about it is the registration district, which is New Ross, based in the Co. Wexford town of the same name, which suggests that Listerlin is quite close to the town.  A quick look at the map show that the parish is just 9km to the west of New Ross.



Shane

[shanew147]

you probably already have this - but just in case....

Your Stephen is listed on Griffith's valuation in the the townland of Listerlin, in Listerlin civil parish. Listerlin is quite a large townland consisting of just over 1,400 acres. Most of the townland seems to be owned by a Wellesley Prendergast esq., who is also the landlord for the Rynhart property.

Stephen is shown as occupying 'House, offices, and Land' of just over 12 acres. Offices is the term used on the valuation for farm buildings, workshops etc. The entry is dated 1850.


Shane

[sistera]

 :)Hi there Roke, I'm not sure if the Stephen Rhnehart your looking for is related my tree but you never know could be related to our Sarah Rynehart,who married Jacob Miller [reply 1],I've not started the Rynharts side  yet as I;m looking for Henry Miller,Jacobs father,gets to confusing as I'm also searching my fathers side Roberts in [Denbigshire] in Wales, sorry i can't help you at this time but will do if  i hear or find some info for you,cheers

[Roke]

Thank you all for your responses!

Yes, Stephen Rinehart is the one who died 7 Feb 1872 in Listerlin as was reported in New Ross.

Attached is the letter from a researcher in the 1990s that lists the Rinehart marriages in Wexford including my Stephen Rynhart and Mary Miller.

There is a group of Palantine Rynehart researchers around the world that have been great at providing more information (like the letter listing marriages). They seem pretty sure most are descended from Heinrich Rhinehart who came from Germany to Ireland with the Palantines about 1709 but records are scarce in connecting all the families.

I have been directed by the Diocese of Ferns to the RCB Library (http://www.ireland.anglican.org/about/42) and am waiting to hear back from them.
Thanks again!

Rich