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Re: Aston Juxta Birmingham
« Reply #18 on: Friday 15 June 12 22:53 BST (UK) »
I would like your thoughts on this
 
I have done a one name search on Allard for birth in Aston, this brings up the following

Mary Ann 1838
Henry 1841
HORATIO 1843 July Qtr Vol 16, Page 115 Aston
Eliza Jane 1844

I then find a Burial Record for
Horatia Allard 3 April 1845
St George Birmingham

I then find the following Baptist Records

Mary Anna Emma Allard
Birth 10 Aug 1813
Baptised 21 April 1814
St Phillip
Father William Allard
Mother Anna

John HORATIA Allard
Baptised 26 April 1819 St Martin's
Father William
Mother Ann

Caroline Olivia Allard
Birth 6 Feb 1821
Baptised 6 Feb 1822 St Martin's
Father William
Mother Hannah

I think that this may be Joseph's family if Horatio b 1843 is Joseph and Lydia's

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Re: Aston Juxta Birmingham
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 16 June 12 00:24 BST (UK) »
John's father William was a haberdasher living in the Bull Ring.
Caroline's father William was a baker living in Digbeth.
It doesn't sound like the family we're looking for as they all seem to be in the building trade.
There's also a Thomas living in B'ham a carpenter who I think is one of the Packwood All(w)ards.
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Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
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Re: Aston Juxta Birmingham
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 16 June 12 09:05 BST (UK) »
1851 Census

John Horatio Allard b 1820 Occupation Carpenter
Mary Ann b 1821
Emma b 1841
John b 1843

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Re: Aston Juxta Birmingham
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 16 June 12 11:06 BST (UK) »
I think Joseph Allard is going to remain a mystery except to say he's probably part of the extended family of Allard/Alward.
I haven't found anything new.

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Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Aston Juxta Birmingham
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 16 June 12 15:06 BST (UK) »
It's the Horatio name that makes me think John Horatio Allard may be Joseph brother, Horatio is a relatively uncommon name and usually hand through the generations and if Horatio b 1843 is Joseph's and Lydia's that could be the the link.

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Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
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Re: Aston Juxta Birmingham
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 16 June 12 15:45 BST (UK) »
Am I missing something.I don't see the connection between the name Horartio & Joseph Allard.

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Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Aston Juxta Birmingham
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 16 June 12 15:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Jim see my post 18
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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Re: Aston Juxta Birmingham
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 16 June 12 16:42 BST (UK) »
I would have thought Horatio would belong to John Horatio as his death was registered at St.George's which is where they were living.They all seem to be from B'ham whereas Joseph is from Packwood.

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Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Aston Juxta Birmingham
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 16 June 12 17:29 BST (UK) »
I suppose we will never know, unless Philly want to take a chance and order the birth certificate for Horace Allard b 1843

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Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich
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