Bowen

[simon family tree]

hi can anyone help with is , am looking for anything on thomas Bowen born about 1813 not sure were, sorry but have it that he was an inn keeper, he son name was Evan Bowen born 04 08 04 1835
Carnation
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 if any one has looked is up  Evan  Bowen or his family would like to know ,thanks

[crisane]

This is your thread from Jan 2011 asking about Thomas and Evan.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,509556.0.html

Do you have Evan on any census records? Can you give us the RG, piece, folio and page references?

Do you have his marriage cert?

[nibbs]

hi could this be thomas in 1841
thomas age 35 farmer
wife Dinah age 25
esther daug age 11
john son age 8
Evan son age 6
Rachel daug age 4
Susannah daug age 5months

lampeter llanybyther
and found this in 1881
Dinah widow age 65 1816 innkeeper
john son age 48 1833 coal merchant
thomas b Evans grandson  age 15 1866
at tanygraig inn llanybyther carmarthen

[nibbs]

This looks like Evan in 1881
   Evan Bowen 183 Currier born llanglythan camarthenshire

wife fanny maria 1842 Shelton Shropshire
William son 1873 newport Shropshire
George Fredrick 1879 newport Shropshire
  the family living at watery lane newport Shropshire


                               Wendy

[simon family tree]

hi  can i frist say sorry ,yes i have asked this in past  but forgot that i had , yes nibbs thats  my man .i have all family tree down  to my mother,its  just that we do not know any thing  about thomas bowen innkeeper , all i have is acopy of a family tree down to mother off  one  of my family on mothers  side  i  dont have  any cexts ,etc . thanks

[osprey]

I looked up this family on the older post. Feel I should say that the 1841 census does not show relationships & it can be confusing to assume.

Thomas Bowen married Dinah Jones 8/6/1832 in Llanllwni, Carmarthenshire

http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=3253532

1851 census shows them in Llanybyther
Tanygraig HO107/2483 folio 66 pg 30
Thomas Bowen head mar 47 ag lab b. Llanllwni
Dinah wife 36 b. Llanllwni
Mary dau 23 b. Llanllwni
Rachel dau 14 b. Llanybyther
Susannah dau 10 b. Llanybyther
Thomas son 8 b. Llanybyther
William son 3 b. Llanybyther

1861 Tangraig Tavern, Llanybyther RG9/4816 folio 5 pg 4
Thomas Bowen head mar 56 publican b. Llanllwni
Dinah wife 46 b. Llanllwni
Susannah dau 20 b. Llanybyther
William son 10 b. Llanybyther

It looks like Thomas must have been married before and had Esther and Mary with his first wife. 1851 has 1851 with her grandfather & probably the father of the first wife

1851 Waunfawr, Llanllwni HO107/2483 folio 6 pg 4
Evan Williams head widower 79 retired farmer
Ester Bowen grand dau 21 general servant
both born Llanllwni

so possibly this is the earlier marriage
http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/SearchResults.pl?RecordType=Marriages&RecordID=3253494

Evan's will is on the NLW website in 1853 & has grand daughters Mary & Esther Bowen among the legatees
http://cat.llgc.org.uk/cgi-bin/gw/chameleon?skin=profeb&lng=en

[osprey]

There's a couple of possible wills on the NLW site for Bowen of Llanllwni. One from 1823, written in December 1822, for a Thomas Bowen of Waunceiloge names his wife as Esther and son Thomas who are to be executors, also children all under 21 - Rachel, Eleanor, Elizabeth, Mary, David and Evan, and brother David and brother-in-law James Jones.

Another will is that of Owen Bowen 1819 of Waunceiloge, written in 1818, that names sons Evan & Thomas. I'm not convinced that the Thomas who is the executor of Owen is then the testator of the 1823 will as there's no mention of David in that one.
But there is a baptism of a David to Owen & Elinor Bowen in Llanllwni in 1790.