Toronto streets, about 1840

[heiserca]

Cloyde might easily be a mangled version of Clezie!  We have seen Clazie, Clazey, Clayse, Clayce, Clacy, Clezy, Clazy, even Clizzee.

There was a John Clazey, born late 1787 or early '88, last known at Ford, Northumberland, in the 1841 census, then... went walkabout, disappeared, left wife and children behind.  Wouldn't it be a wonder if you have tracked him down!

[heiserca]

Another "possible" ancestry of Ellen Lockhart:

John Lockhart, #597, Lanarkshire, arrived June 1821 on the ship "Earl of Buckingham", settled at Ramsay Township, Ontario, concession 12, lot 4 west, total family 5: husband, wife, and 3 daughters.  

Might one of those daughters have been my Ellen/Helen?  The timing is right... how could we discover names of the daughters?

[JaneyCanuck]

At familysearch, searching for Lockhart in Ramsay Ontario Canada (which is in Lanark County - near Ottawa), there is a John born 1793 in Scotland, in the 1871 census. That could fit.

Using his details to search:
02, Ramsay a, North Lanark 80, Ontario, Canada
he is the only result (did the 1871 Canada only include head of household? I forget -- but that record would be viewable at Anc'y)

He is there in 1861, shown as born 1794.

In 1861 there are an Elizabeth and William Lockhart both on page 76, lines 40 and 41, so it's possible to match up household members by the records at familysearch for that census.

I don't see anyone else on the same page as John, page 1 line 9 (clicking on all the Lockharts in Ramsay Lanark Ontario Canada in 1861), so presumably he was widowed by that time.

I can't see him in 1851 at Anc'y, even just searching for John in Lanark County born in Scotland 1788-1798, and it returns nil for loc*rt born in Scotland 1785-1825.

Troy (Albany), NY, is roughly equidistant from Ottawa and Toronto, so that doesn't help us tremendously to figure out whether a young woman from Lanark County, Ontario, might be a likely candidate, unfortunately. Generally speaking, there was more traffic from the Toronto region to NY state than from the Ottawa region, I'd say.

[cosmac]

Have you checked out any relationship between your Lockhart and the Lockhart of this marriage?

Robert Leach, 26, West Troy Albany Co. to Jane Lockhart, 25 East Troy Rennesalaer Co.
Married April 4, 1853 by Villeroy Reed of the 1st Presbyterian church Lansingburgh.

Debbie

[JaneyCanuck]

Robert Leach, 26, West Troy Albany Co. to Jane Lockhart, 25 East Troy Rennesalaer Co.
Married April 4, 1853 by Villeroy Reed of the 1st Presbyterian church Lansingburgh.

who will of course be the Jane I referred to a couple of posts above:

Also in 1850 familysearch shows a Jane Locklort (never underestimate the capacity to mistranscribe) in Troy Ward 2, born 1826 Scotland. Yes indeed, at Anc'y she is Jane Tocklart. I can't see the household, but there are no other Tocklarts in that census. I would have a look at her too.

and I then added:

That Jane Locklort/Tocklart - familysearch shows her in a Vail household ... with ... one other young single woman, from Ireland. I would suspect they were both domestic servants.

[cosmac]

You assume that Ellen's son, George Alexander, is named after the husband's side of the family.  George might be for the paternal grandfather but the Alexander could be for the maternal grandfather.  The 2nd daughter Mary might then be named for Ellen's mother.  Family search has a few pairings for an Alexander Lockhart and Mary which you might look into.

Of course all this is speculation. Uunless you find a Lockhart relative with some sort of documentation such as a family bible which links your Ellen to a specific family line you won't be able to definitely prove her parentage.  You might have some good guesses but nothing definitive since sources such as marriage and death certificates didn't give useful information. 

You posted a link to the cemetery where Ellen is buried.  Did you contact them to see if their online index was only a partial list of the information they hold on file?

I also wouldn't discount Helen Orr as a misspelling of Eleanor.  You might be correct but Scottish naming patterns also included many family names - sometimes a few generations back. 

Debbie 

[JaneyCanuck]

Unfortunately, I don't see any Lockhart births in Scotland to Alexander + Mary (Swan or Maclaren) before 1824, and the earliest marriages (Mary McLaren, Mary McKinzie) are in 1819.

I definitely agree not to have fixed ideas about which names came from where, though.

[cosmac]

Not every baptismal record survives.  Sometimes you find records for a few children in a certain timeframe but don't find those for the children you know came before and after.

Women had children over extended periods of time.  One of my ancestors had her first child in 1816 and the last in 1838.   I know the names I suggested all show later births but it is still a possibility and right now everything is simply conjecture.

Debbie

[heiserca]

Thank you, Debbie and Janey!  We seem to have 2 divergent Lockhart lines to follow, where before there were none:

First line, Robert, John & Jane Lockhart - apparently siblings, who all lived at or near Troy, New York, about the same time when Ellen/Helen Lockhart married James Kerr Clezie;

and

Second line, John Lockhart and his 3 daughters, names unknown, who settled at  Ramsay Twp, Ontario in 1821; John is buried in the Auld Kirk Cemetery, Almonte, Ontario, just west of Ottawa, found online a photo of his grave.

Might one of these lines eventually take us to my ancestor Ellen/Helen Lockhart? 

How does one determine the parents of someone who died leaving no record of where she came from?

Stay tuned for the next exciting episode...