Samuel Jones (Sunderland)

[kiwihalfpint]

Getting the death notice will tell you about family also.


Cheers
KHP

[Janette]

The same FD was used for both Ruby and Samuel,you could email them and ask if they have a copy of the newspaper death notices,the FD was Ninness Funeral Home,you will find their email here

http://www.fdanz.org.nz/about-fdanz/fdanz-funeral-directors/wellington.aspx

I usually cut and paste the cemetery record to an email to make sur all the information a FD needs is there.

Cheers Janette

[kiwihalfpint]

As a follow on from my Reply #8 Samuel died on the 16th May 1987 and cremated on the 20th May 1987.

Cheers
KHP

[malcar]

Many thanks Janette, KHP and Lucy2,
You have all given me lots to think about.  As requested further info on Sam and Elizabeth:-
Elizabeth married a sailor Samuel Jones in 1899.  Sam sailed to NZ where he left his ship to join a company trading in the Southern hemisphere.  He wrote to Elizabeth giving her an ultimatum, join me or I stop your money, she joined him, sailing out in 1913.  Arthur Carruthers (b 1925) my cousin, visited them during WW2 when his ship visited NZ near Wellington, at a place called Lower Hutt.  Arthur says Sam was quite a character.  Nothing is known of them since.
Elizabeth and Sam Jones were both living at 49 Lawrence Street, Sunderland, at the time of their marriage, and there was a 10 year difference in their ages.  Elizabeth Carruthers b 1872 the same year her mother died, I am thinking in childbirth or soon after from complications?  Sam was born c 1862 both in Sunderland.
In the 1891 census Elizabeth is living with her brother Arthur Carruthers (my grandfather) in Wear Street and goes by the name of Elah, she was also known as Lizzie I am told.  I believe the family was broken up after the death of her mother, and am still trying to find out where Elizabeth was brought up and by whom. 

Your information gives me hope of finding grandchildren who may have answers to some of my questions, and maybe even a photo.

Thanks again ALL!

[kiwihalfpint]

Elizabeth Carruthers b 1872 the same year her mother died, I am thinking in childbirth or soon after from complications?  Sam was born c 1862 both in Sunderland.

These seem to fit :  There is an Elizabeth Jones died 20 December 1965 aged 93 and a Samuel died 5 January 1957 aged 94 at Karori Cremations


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Cheers
KHP

[malcar]

Fantastic KHP,

This is brilliant news, have sent email to funeral directors for Sam and Ruby with the hope they may have records of death notices or a newspaper archive that wrote them, also if applicant could be contacted and informed of my interest.  Thanks for all your hard work all of you, I can't thank you enough.  malcar.  (Malcolm)

[malcar]

Hi Again,
I received a reply eventually from the Funeral People J Ninness, they gave me a contact name of Eric Jones, 34 Moaraki Road, Upper Hutt, tel 269 980.  Having made an Internet search for this Eric or E Jones was unable to find at that address, it is possible he has moved but is also possible he has died?  The Issue shows two males, one female ages 55, 51 and 46 respectively in 1986,making the eldest 81 and the daughter about 72 today, but unfortunately I don't have her married name.  The death notice clipping must have slipped in the scanning process so only the right half is readable, there is a Brian, olin suspect that is Colin, Susan and a Donna, but unable to know if these are children or grandchildren etc?  Any ideas where I can go from here?  Malcolm.