Census 1901/1911 - Missing townlands or Streets

[Sinann]

Use the link in the post above yours  Reply#61
I think Kildare DED starts on film number 004105089 or possibly some of it is on the previous film, I only looked at the start of each film.
You’ll have to work your way through to find Sillothill, it should be there but I don’t know for sure.
You’ll have to register with Family Search if you’re not already.

Civil Parish of Moone, Barony of Offaly East. Oddly the Townland just below it, Shanacloon, is part of the Civil Parish of Ballyshannon.

[msmahon]

Hi,
Thanks for replying, I eventually found the listings. So, Silliothill returns have been incorrectly catalogued as Chapel Hill for the 1901 census. If you look up Chapel Hill in Kildare town, you'll notice that there are duplicate house numbers (i.e. two 'House 1', two 'House 2', etc.) Half of the houses are actually Silliothill!  Hope this might be helpful for anyone else searching the 1901 census for Silliothill, Kildare town.
On the parishes, yes it's a strange one, and I'd bet there's a good story behind that too!

[scenography]

Where are 1901 census records for the townlands of Damoily, Enagh, and Kilmachugh?

Looking at the National Archives site, for the DED of Clady in Co. Armagh, the census records have six townlands in 1911, but only three townlands in 1901.

1911
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Clady/
Ballylane
Clady Beg
Clady More
Darnoily
Enagh
Kilmachugh

1901
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Clady/
Ballylane
Cladybeg
Cladymore

Townlands.ie confirms that there are six townlands in the Clady Electoral Division, https://www.townlands.ie/armagh/clady/

[Jon_ni]

Census returns, Kilclooney Parish (Armagh)
There are 3 films 808508 808509 808510 for Kilclooney 1901 vs 5 1911 so may not have been photographed & indeed Missing.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/138066
Note the spelling error 1911 Darnoily for Damoily when comparing to townlands.ie or  https://www.logainm.ie/en/56236

Would have to browse the FS images to be sure, or try Shane's Census Image Browse in case the images are on NAI just unindexed (not working for me, getting invalid URL in Firefox).
https://www.swilson.info/wp/?p=2428
https://www.swilson.info/wp/?p=2122

[scenography]

Thank you, Jon_ni, for the links. Unfortunately I found that Damoily, Enagh, and Kilmachugh townlands were missing on the film too. Clady More townland, in the DED of Clady, was immediately followed by Canary townland, in the DED of Tullyroan, at https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DKRS-N7T?cat=138066&i=317 and https://www.swilson.info/tools/census_nav2.php?curl=https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000386015/.

I guess my next step is to contact the National Archives and hope for the success you reported in Reply #57.

[scenography]

The National Archives didn't send me records, but they immediately acknowledged the problem. They said they were auditing the 1901 and 1911 censuses to fix errors in the online data. Here was their reply:

With regard to your enquiry, I’m writing to let you know that when the 1901 and 1911 census returns were microfilmed in the 1960s, some townlands were accidentally omitted, which explains why the townlands of Damoily, Enagh and Kilmachugh are not included in the online census.

As part of the redesign of the National Archives website and digitisation of the 1926 Census, we’re currently auditing the 1901 and 1911 censuses. All omissions and errors reported are logged and are being checked by our project team prior to site re-launch.

In the meantime, you're most welcome to visit the National Archives to check the hardcopy catalogues for the 1901 census for Armagh for reference to the townlands of Damoily, Enagh and Kilmachugh.

Once their inclusion in the catalogue is confirmed, you can then order the original returns to consult in our Reading Room, should you wish to do so. Please note that the census returns are held in off-site storage and are made available for consultation two working days after they've been ordered.

For details on visiting the National Archives, please see our website at www.nationalarchives.ie/visit-us.

Wishing you every success in your research.

[Jon_ni]

probably indicates all staff are now busy with the revamped site and sorting the 1926 in storage, conserving the damaged pages etc in preparation for scanning, just as was done in Engalnd and Wales for the 1921 census. My email of 2 years ago was before that.

Has the https://nationalarchives.ie/collections/search-the-census/corrections-to-the-census-data/ page got more detailed and longer since it appeared a few weeks ago?

Unfortunately they don't clarify what is additional for the 1901 or and what for the 1911 or what is additional to the filmed but unindexed/untranscribed townlands browsable on Familysearch, would need to work back througfh this thread.
The missing section of Avenue Road, Lurgan 1901 is not mentioned that they sent me the one household return for.

Some townlands (and streets) were transcribed incorrectly and many others entered as the enumerator spelt which resulting in dfferent spellings for the same place 1901 vs 1911 and disagrement with Loganim. As the DED, county and parish are listed on returns and such info will be on cover pages of ledgers etc perhaps the 1926 townland will be corrected to official spelling. I would't expect for there to be more than 32 counties just because an enumerator wrote Co. Monahan. At the same time I'm happy for them to leave the Roman Caholick and Prisbyterians, and fornames as written, the denomination mispellings are itemised & selectable on the new site.

They state that Corcreeny has been added to Co. Down. When I  browse Waringstown DED on the old site:
Corcreany (160 houses) + Cornreany (30 houses) is there 1901.
Corcreeny (148 houses) + Cornreany (25 houses) is there 1911.
So really, rather than being missing was spelt wrong 1901 and the same as another, so might have appeared to be missing, but all families were itemised. They are both adjacent in Donaghcloney Parish so 1901 just appeared that everyone in the much larger Corcreeny, between Waringstown & Bleary, was crammed into Cornreany.