Massively confused about Joseph Botcherby!

[littlebootsy]

This is getting more and more confusing! Haha

[JenB]

I think you can discount that Mary A Gallon/Botcherby marriage to Cuthbert Snaith:

Mary A Botcherby married John Gallon in Stockton Parish Church in 1831.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NNVW-FZ7

There is a death of a John Gallon in Stockton, in 1st q 1845. He was aged 37 and buried at Bishop Middleham. 

In 1851 Mary A. Gallon is a widow aged 42 living with her father, Robert Botcherby in Bishop Middleham. HO 107 / 2384 / 722 / 13

She marries Cuthbert Snaith in 1856, in Stockton R.D.

In 1861 they are living in Bishop Middleham RG 9 / 3696 / 92 / 8

Death of Cuthbert Snaith in Stockton R.D. 3rd quarter 1863 , buried at Bishop Middleham.

[2zpool]

Just to keep on the back burner for when you find out if we are looking at the correct family

Washington Holy Trinity:

Richard Botcherby born 5 Dec 1811, baptised 29 Mar 1812 1st son of Joseph Botcherby, weaver, son of Robert Botcherby native of Painshaw (Penshaw) by his wife Jane, daur of Richard Bygate, native of Sadberge

Robert Botcherby buried Washington HT 9 Apr 1826, died Gateshead, age 77
Jane Botcherby buried Washington HT 13 Mar 1817, died North Biddick, age 64

Marriage in Washington Holy Trinity:

8 Apr 1832 Richard Botcherby and Mary Scott

Baptisms Washington Holy Trinity:

Robert Scott Botcherby baptised 7 Apr 1833 s/o Richard and Mary
Joseph Botcherby baptised 5 Oct 1834 s/o Richard and Mary

Monkwearmouth St Peter:

Mary Botcherby baptised 4 Oct 1837 d/o Richard and Mary.

Janis

[littlebootsy]

Just to keep on the back burner for when you find out if we are looking at the correct family

Washington Holy Trinity:

Richard Botcherby born 5 Dec 1811, baptised 29 Mar 1812 1st son of Joseph Botcherby, weaver, son of Robert Botcherby native of Painshaw (Penshaw) by his wife Jane, daur of Richard Bygate, native of Sadberge

Robert Botcherby buried Washington HT 9 Apr 1826, died Gateshead, age 77
Jane Botcherby buried Washington HT 13 Mar 1817, died North Biddick, age 64

Marriage in Washington Holy Trinity:

8 Apr 1832 Richard Botcherby and Mary Scott

Baptisms Washington Holy Trinity:

Robert Scott Botcherby baptised 7 Apr 1833 s/o Richard and Mary
Joseph Botcherby baptised 5 Oct 1834 s/o Richard and Mary

Monkwearmouth St Peter:

Mary Botcherby baptised 4 Oct 1837 d/o Richard and Mary.

Janis

This is exactly what I have in my tree  wether its the correct family or not is a different matter!

[2zpool]

The term imbicile had different meanings.  He didn't have to be mentally ill as in schizophrenic--he could have had a head injury, or illness that might have left him with less than a normal IQ.

There were plenty of Richard, Robert, and Joseph Botcherby's in the Penshaw records.

My Sadberge records do not go far enough back to catch Jane daur of Richard Bygate baptism but I found a burial of an Anne Bygate daur of Richard and Mary Bygate buried 15 Nov 1791

Janis

[stanmapstone]

The term imbecile had different meanings.  He didn't have to be mentally ill as in schizophrenic--he could have had a head injury, or illness that might have left him with less than a normal IQ.
Janis

Considering that householders, who could be semi-literate, were being asked to give information about medical disabilities without any definition of the terms being used the answer should be treated with caution.

Stan

[littlebootsy]

I'm starting to get really impatient now. I wish I had spent the extra money on getting the certificate delivered the next working day. I'd have it by now and this confusion could be (hopefully) solved! But no... I'll have to be patient

IF the certificate confirms that Joseph Botcherby who married Hannah Dodds, is the same Joseph Botcherby who went to live with his sister Mary Harris... Is there any way of finding out what happened to Joseph and Hannah's marriage?

I guess my next step would be to get Hannah and Joseph Walker's marriage certificate to see what that says about her marital status at the time of their marriage.

Also... If Joseph was classed as an Imbecile, although I must treat this with caution, would there be any medical records about his condition (if there was even one!)

The Botcherby's are so fascinating to me

Ooh, and one last question. How would I go about finding out where they are burried? Where would my first searching point  be?

Sorry for all the questions... I'm addicted to this family tree malarky! 

[littlebootsy]

Hi you lovely lot.

I received the marriage certificate and Richard is Joseph's father! So him living back with Richard and Mary in 1871 is the correct person... either that or their's another Joseph with a father called Richard!

So... I guess my next step is Joseph Walker and Hannah Botcherby's (nee Dodds) marriage certificate to see what she claims to be on that one seeing as they married in 1874... Would be interesting to see if she claims to be a widdow, seeing as Joseph didn't (possbly) die until 1882... 

[angelfish58]

Glad you got it sorted out, and you also know what happened to Richards brother Joseph so that's one less Joseph to worry about