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Re: Massively confused about Joseph Botcherby!
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 09 June 12 21:09 BST (UK) »
Jen B - Are you sure? I'll have to look at that, I couldn't find an 1881 census for Joseph Botcherby!

He is indexed as Joseph Botcherly.
He is living with his sister Mary Harris, (one of her children is called Mary Botcherby Harris).
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Re: Massively confused about Joseph Botcherby!
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 09 June 12 21:16 BST (UK) »
I don't have the marriage certificate for Joseph and Hannah, it's odered but it's not arrived through the post yet.

I have the marriage certificate for Joseph jnr and Sarah Ellen Brogden.

Joseph Botcherby jnr married Sarah Ellen Brogden (Ellen Brogden on the marriage certificate) in 1887. It lists his father as Joseph Botcherby (deceased).


I guess i'll have to wait for that marriage certificate to see if it's the right Joseph I've been chasing or not :(

Botcherby - Durham
Dawson - South Yorkshire

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Re: Massively confused about Joseph Botcherby!
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 09 June 12 21:18 BST (UK) »
I think the Joseph living with Richard & Mary in 1871 and with Mary in 1881 (both in Chester le Street R.D.) died in 1882: Joseph Botcherby, aged 47, 2nd q 1882, Chester le Street 10a, 286.
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Re: Massively confused about Joseph Botcherby!
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 09 June 12 21:20 BST (UK) »
Where is Hannah in 1881?    I can't seem to find them.
Andrea


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Re: Massively confused about Joseph Botcherby!
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 09 June 12 21:21 BST (UK) »
Thank you Jen!

It looks like the marriage between Joseph and Hannah broke down, possibly due to his mental health issues, and she re-married in 1874, he then went to live with his sister.

Of course I'm just speculating!

Would there be a divorce entry for Joseph and Hannah, or was that not the done thing back in those days?

P.S. Thank you ALL for your help on this! :)
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Dawson - South Yorkshire

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Re: Massively confused about Joseph Botcherby!
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 09 June 12 21:23 BST (UK) »
Where is Hannah in 1881?    I can't seem to find them.
Andrea

Hannah re-married and is living with Joseph Walker. She's called Hannah Walker.

They lived with Richard Botcherby, Ralph Botcherby, Joseph Botcherby, Sarah Ann Walker, Joseph Walker jnr, Elizabeth Botcherby and Hannah Walker.
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Re: Massively confused about Joseph Botcherby!
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 09 June 12 21:25 BST (UK) »
and she re-married in 1874, he then went to live with his sister.

She was mostl likely committing bigamy in that case.

Divorce was most unlikely at that time - far too expensive.

You need that marriage certificate - too much speculation going on at the moment  ;)
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Re: Massively confused about Joseph Botcherby!
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 09 June 12 21:25 BST (UK) »
Hi all in 1881 they are on RG11/4979/115/5

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Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: Massively confused about Joseph Botcherby!
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 09 June 12 21:27 BST (UK) »
Yes, I got that but where?  What is the census reference?  We think you may have the wrong Joseph in 1871 - if he is unmarried.  Needs checking more anyway.
Andrea
Thanks keyboard86!