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Hello

got it - looks better now.  Such a shame there is no address on the gravestone !

I think its talking about the pit disaster - sorry its so unclear.

Dyma lin y pylle ond dim yn lin dda nid y pwll (? ) i ddwi dewis y llall ond bod y ddim yn mind in (?) ond ddim y llall (?) (hepeno) mind fel (?) (?).
mi gaf well llun na hun i chi os medru gael un.

" Here is a picture of the pits but it is not a good picture.  It is not the pit (? ) I chose the other because it is not going but not the other (?) happens like.  I will get a picture if I can.

I will ask one of the welsh speakers off the cymraeg forum to have a look to see if they can make more sense than I can.

Hi despair - yes the problem has been all along that we cannot get a decent match for Hannah Jones - we even know that they had been married 21 years in the 1911 census - confirmed by both as they are in different places on census night so they have completed them independently.  I had discounted them because of the birthplace as Jaycey seems sure of the cemmaes birth.  I will have more time later - I think I am going to draw a tree (!) of what we know and what we are unsure of ........

Nesta

Nesta

                hi,did you see the 2 words wrote on the front of the card,dont know if you can read them

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On one of the cards it says,from your true nephew John Jones and its addressed to mrs w richards.

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Yes saw the words - can't quite make it out it could "hon daniad" - which translates to this is the one fired ...............could they be pointing out the shaft where the explosion was; just googled it and there is an interesting note here including a list of the dead which include a couple of richards but I don;t think they are connected......

http://www.welshcoalmines.co.uk/GlamEast/WattstownNational.htm

Wattstown is in the ystradyfodwg area where William Richards went to from Aberystwyth - this card could be from an old neighbour showing them the pit.
 Got to go
Back later
N

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Given the comments re ages-"both are given as 27"(another inconsistency)- this could be the result of the Lampeter marriage:-

1891  4552  40  11

Regards
Roger

             hi roger,yes that is a possibilty given that elizabeth hannah(daughter)was born 1891,i wonder if jaycey has the wedding cert or birth cert for susanah

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I am going off the information in reply#131.I think Susanah's birth certificate came first and then there has been a search for a wedding of William Richards to Hannah Jones.As the only one vaguely fittting the bill,it has been assumed that this is the correct one.I am casting doubt on this because of age and location and suggesting there is a couple who fit the bill for this marriage still in the Lampeter area in 1891.
My further question as to whether it says "..formerly Jones.." relates to the common form of words used indicating that the couple are married.

Regards
Roger

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On my grandmother's birth certificate:
Susannah Sophia
Born 18/7/1896
Place Penybont
Father - William Richards
Mother - Hannah Jones
Father's occupation now down as Slate Enameller
Address Penybont

From Jill's post
N

[nestagj]

oops posted at the same time
N

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 sorry should have looked back before i posted , i thought all marriage certs had the wifes maiden name.
 did  jaycey put the marriage details on here do you know

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still no wedding cert,should have been here tues