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[tac]

hi,thank you,i was wondering if this is the elizabeth that married thomas jones
and we all know how the ages get changed or elizabeth could have lied and took 10 off ;)but its worth keeping in mind.crumbs just realized that elizabeth was unmarried

[nestagj]

Thats brilliant no wonder she war hard too find This is really interesting  is for 1881 and 1901 unfortunately on my phone till later (as you can possibly tell )
Nesta

[nestagj]

Got home and down some trawling  :

No wonder we couldn't find them - A**** version .....

Elizabeth Richard    58
Sophiak Rusile Richard    13
William Richard    10
Lidia Harriet Richard    8

Have tried to find the two younger children in 1881 and forwards but with not much success.
Nesta


In 1881 Osprey's find at the same address
   Thomas Jones       44  - shoemaker
   Elizabeth Jones    55
   Edwin R. Jones       8

and Thomas and Elizabeth are still there in 1901 still noted as a shoemaker


1861 possibility  4200/58/10   in Trefeirig
Elizabeth Richards    49
Richard Richards    21
Sophia Richards    9   Looking at the original image and comparing with the other 9;s it doesn;t
             look quite the same - possible a misstranscription ?

Here's Thomas in 1871 he's a basketmaker at Ysguborycoed b. sguborycoed

William Andrew    24
Jane Andrew    24
Mary Anne Andrew 3
John Andrew    1
Thomas Jones    35   

and in 1861 at Furnace, Ysguborycoed an almsman with his mother Mary aged 70 an almswoman.  Marked as deaf but not dumb.

Elizabeth Richards married Thomas Jones in the last quarter of 1871 in the Machynlleth Reg district.

[osprey]

good find with that 1871 census, Brevitas. She aged well - she was 29 in 1891!

1861 you would think that the family would be in Talybont as that the birth place of 10 year old William on the 1871. There are pieces missing from the 1861, though.

I'm beginning to think that Elizabeth Jane's father was a Williams and that's why she used that surname. It could be that he registered the birth which would allow him to be on the birth cert.

 

[despair]

Apologies if this is a repeat of one of the options,but isn't the best age fit for Elizabeth/Sophia at

RG10 5565 34 11

Regards
Roger

[Gadget]

It might have been, Roger, had we not found a Sophia Priscilla  with a brother William - see my Replies # 49 and #53. The address also ties in with Thomas and Elizabeth Jones on the 1881 (see nesta's Reply #56), who then have granddaughter Elizabeth Jane Williams living with them on the 1891.

Osprey - I had a look for a suitable Evan Williams (on Elizabeth J's second wedding cert) but so far nothing too promising.

[nestagj]

Good morning all

Still looking for a decent match in 1861 - have found a couple of good possibles going forward in the census for Wm Richards born 1860 Talybont - but nothing 1861 yet.  Struggling with Lydia / Harriet moving forward.

can't do much today as i'm working.
Nesta

[tac]

afternoon all,well this is going to throw a spanner in the works >:(spoke to my s.i.l. and she has had another look at her postcards and their is one to mr w.j. richards and it starts,Dear brother and ends with sue(so it looks like william had a sister called sue or susanah).this was sent 1905
i have asked my s.i.l. to let me have a look at these postcards to see if any thing else comes to light,will keep you all informed if i find any thing.
  thank you all for the help you have given me so very much apretiated

[Gadget]

Hi tac 

Could you ask sil if she has the generations correct as,  on the 1901 - RG13/5154/47/2,  I see that William (brother of Sophia) has a daughter Susannah S Richards, aged 4 and a son William J Richards, aged 1. Could the postcard be to this W J Richards from his sister Susannah (Sue)?


Added - noticed the 1905 insert - is this correct?