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Re: place name
« Reply #27 on: Monday 18 June 12 10:16 BST (UK) »
so glad that worked out!  ;D

Tracing Sophia might be a bit of a struggle, her age varies  - 29 in 1891 so born c. 1862,  birth c. 1866 in a later census, death reg gives birth year of 1859. I had a possible for her in 1871 aged 9 RG10/5565 folio 34 pg 11 with mother Elizabeth. I found a possible marriage for Elizabeth Richards & Thomas Jones in dec qtr 1881, all going nicely I thought and then I spotted that Elizabeth still a widow in 1891. So, perhaps the Elizabeth marrried to Thomas Jones was the mother of Elizabeth Jane's father, rather than Sophia Priscilla.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: place name
« Reply #28 on: Monday 18 June 12 10:41 BST (UK) »
hi,just checked sophia on freeb.m.d. and she was 73 when she died so that would make her birth 1859,but as you say so many different d.o.b on the censuses it going to be tricky tracking her down.
goodhew,sittingbourne.
raymond, dulwich?
stacey, berkshire(inkpen)
crabb, aveley essex.
clarke, west ham
williams, borth, cardigan.
broad, barrow green teynham
crabb, essex
ansell, woolwich, west ham

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« Reply #29 on: Monday 18 June 12 10:53 BST (UK) »
Hi again

This is the closest that I can find in 1871:

1871
RG10/5564/5/4 and 6/5
Lluestnewydd,Tyrymynach
Isaac Richards, head, 50, Iron and lead ore dresser,  b. Llanbadarnfawr
Sophia Richards, wife, 43, b. do
Isaac Richards, son, 17, lead miner, b. do
Josiah Richards, son, 16, lead ore dresser, b. do
Sophia Richards, daughter, 13, do, b. Llanfihangel Geneur Glyn
Eleanor W  Richards, daughter, 11, b. do
Evan M Richards, son, 5, b. do


I've not followed this family through.

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« Reply #30 on: Monday 18 June 12 11:07 BST (UK) »
hi,brevitas,any chance you check this out if you have the 1871 census,
   sophia richards born 1858,in cardigan
goodhew,sittingbourne.
raymond, dulwich?
stacey, berkshire(inkpen)
crabb, aveley essex.
clarke, west ham
williams, borth, cardigan.
broad, barrow green teynham
crabb, essex
ansell, woolwich, west ham


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« Reply #31 on: Monday 18 June 12 11:12 BST (UK) »
Hi tac

The one given in 1871 is the only one born circa 1858-9 in Cardiganshire. Llanfihangel Geneur Glyn is just north of Aber - inland from Borth.

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« Reply #32 on: Monday 18 June 12 11:26 BST (UK) »
hi,gnu
         on free b.m.d sophia is down as being 73 at death, so that would make her birth 1859,so i thought may be this is her
goodhew,sittingbourne.
raymond, dulwich?
stacey, berkshire(inkpen)
crabb, aveley essex.
clarke, west ham
williams, borth, cardigan.
broad, barrow green teynham
crabb, essex
ansell, woolwich, west ham

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« Reply #33 on: Monday 18 June 12 11:37 BST (UK) »
Hi tac

As stated, the Sophia I gave in Reply #29 is the only one born around that time and living in the area. As she is 13 (and 3 in 1861) she looks as if she was born in 1857/58. I've checked the BMDs and this entry looks interesting:

June q 1857, Aberystwyth vol 11b p 69

Not found anything later in that area.
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« Reply #34 on: Monday 18 June 12 11:53 BST (UK) »
thank you ,i think sophia was born @1859,as i would go by the free b.m.d as the censuses do give different dates of birth.
                                                        once again, thanks for your help
goodhew,sittingbourne.
raymond, dulwich?
stacey, berkshire(inkpen)
crabb, aveley essex.
clarke, west ham
williams, borth, cardigan.
broad, barrow green teynham
crabb, essex
ansell, woolwich, west ham

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« Reply #35 on: Monday 18 June 12 12:01 BST (UK) »
In case the 1871 is the correct family:

In 1851:
Tanllidart, Elerch
Isaac Richards, 30, miner
Sophia Richards, 22
Both born Llanbadarnfawr
HO107/2486/9/10

In 1861:
Lleustnewydd, Tyrymynach
Isaac Richards, 40,  lead miner,  ore dresser and farmer of 40 acres
Sophia Richards, wife, 33, miner's wife
Elizabeth Anne Ricahrds, daughter, 9
Isaac Richards, son, 7
Josiah Richards, son, 6,
Sophia Richards, daughter, 3, b. Llanfihangel geneur glyn
Elinor Winifred Richards, daughter, 1, b. do
All but Sophia and Elinor b. llanbadarnfawr
RG9/4197/9/12

In 1881 :
Penybontchydybeddau (?), Trefeirig
Isaac Richards, 60, formerly lead ore dresser.
Sophia Richards, wife, 53, miner's wife
Josiah Richards, son, 26, lead miner
Evan M Richards, son, 15, lead ore dresser
All b. Llanbadarnfawr
RG11/5449/103/8

Marriage:
Dec q, 1847, Aberystwyth vol 27 p 36

Isaac Richards  and Sophia Morgans on the same page



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