place name

[tac]

thank you, Despair and malijibic,
my s.i.l. has a pic of elizabeths grave and it say,s  1885 for her birth,thank you both for the advice, will get on to it tomorrow.

[despair]

Yet more speculation:-
What if Elizabeth Richard(s) of the 1871 Sguborycoed census is not the mother of Sophia Priscilla,William and Lidia Harriet(she would be 50 at the latter's birth),but the grandmother,and the true mother is the untraced Ann(e)
Richards in the grave,giving a birth sequence:-
Elizabeth c.1813,Anne c.1840,Sophia c. 1858
with Ann(e) either being unmarried or married to a Richard(s)?

Regards
Roger

[nestagj]

Had found these earlier .....

1871 Census - Mill Street, Aberystwyth
Ann Richards       31   Head Unm   Charwoman b. Aberystwyth
Jane Mason       14   Dau  Unm   General Servant b Geginau ??
Ann Maria Rowe    8    Dau   Scholar b Aberystwyth
James L Richards    5    Son   Scholar b Aberystwyth

1881 Census Queens Street 4 White Horse Court, Aberystwyth
Anne Richards       40   Head Unm   Charwoman b Aberystwyth
James L. Richards    15   Son  Unm   Mariner b Aberystwyth

but couldn't seem to go back much further: The grave states Ann Richards of Queen Street, Aberystwyth although the age is a bit off;

But Elizabeth is with William, Sophia Priscilla and Lidia Harriet in 1871 ?  but she is old to have the children - but maybe they are her younger one's.

Could Elizabeth and Anne be aunt and niece;  sister and daughter of the Richard Richards mentioned on the grave.

Nesta

[nestagj]

Just been going through the posts again - Tac you mention that Elizabeth Richards' father was Richard Richards - where has that snippet come from - is it from a marriage certificate; cause the grave notes that Ann Richards is the daughter of Richard Richards
Nesta

[tac]

Just been going through the posts again - Tac you mention that Elizabeth Richards' father was Richard Richards - where has that snippet come from - is it from a marriage certificate; cause the grave notes that Ann Richards is the daughter of Richard Richards
Nesta

  sorry nestagj,elizabeths father was supposedly evan williams,but some how i dont think this is true (as she didnt have any fathers name in the first marriage )and in her second marriage her husband had a father of the same name

[nestagj]

Sorry Tac - I didn't mean Elizabeth Williams i meant Elizabeth Richards mother of Sophia Priscilla who married Thomas Jones

from your post #191

elizabeth richards father was richard richards,a labourer(1871).and at the time of marriage to thomas jones she is at egwyls fach
and on elizabeth williams marriage cert to john jenkins,no name given for father.
on her second marriage to david williams her father is down as evan williams(deceased)but i have a feeling this a little white lie as david williams father had the same name.

Do you have this marriage certificate ?
Cannot seem to find Lidia Harriet in either the BMD;s nor the census 
Nesta
Nesta

[tac]

hi nestagj
yes i have this cert,elizabeth richards, spinster, full age.(who married thomas jones1871) fathers name was richard richards,labourer.the witnesses were thomas jones and richard davies.
sorry havent been on this thread much as been having another go at my own family history:-(, but i do look in and waiting for a reply to the email i sent gwynned.gov that despair found for me.

[nestagj]

Thanks Tac; its ok I keep dipping in and out as well. I have my own brick walls !!!  I shall have a search for a richard richards with daughter anne and elizabeth..................this family does no want to be found !!

speak soon

Nests

[tac]

hi all,i have had no reply to my email i sent a couple of weeks ago,so now i will write and send a real letter .
just noticed on the 1911 census,elizabeths birth place is penmaenpool staton?dolgelly,i cant find staton and google wants me to look at station.
is there a place called staton in dolgelly ,any one know.