Married cousins

[macdonald444]

Whilst researching my wife’s family tree I have come across a situation where cousins seem to have married. I know this is legal (thanks to Henry VIII) but I am not sure whether I have got crossed wires somewhere.

The facts I have are:-

 Thomas Campleman b 1827 in Bridlington had a son Randolph born abt 1870 in Hunslet Leeds with his second wife Jane nee Norton formerly Warner born about 1840 in Lund

Jane already had a son Joseph Warner born abt 1863 in Lambeth from a previous marriage.

Randolph had a daughter Alice A Campleman born abt 1892 in Leeds

Joseph had a son Henry Warner born abt 1894 in Leeds

There was a marriage in Leeds in 1919 (Q2 9b 1341), between an Alice A Campleman and a Henry Warner, birth years and locations matching.

What I am trying to confirm is whether or not the Alice and Henry in this marriage were related as suggested above without applying for the marriage certificate.

Can anyone help?

Many thanks in anticipation.

David

[ThrelfallYorky]

Drawing it out as a diagram/tree usually works for me .... but: who was Alice Campleman's mother?? Does that make any difference? When did Thomas and Jane marry?

[macdonald444]

Thanks ThrelfallYorky for your swift response.

Alice's mother was Isabella Williams born abt 1869 in Darlington.

Jane and Thomas married in Hunslet Leeds in 1867.

I have as you suggest drawn a diagram and can link Alice and Henry together. However I am not sure whether the two I can link are the same two found in the marriage cert, without knowing the fathers' names on the marriage certificate.

What I was looking for was whether there was someone who could provide that information.

Once again many thanks.

David

[mosiefish]

Hi,

Just in case anyone can look up the marriage:

Alice M Campleman married Henry V Warner at the Methodist Church, Cardigan Lane, Burley in 1919 according to Yorkshirebmd.   

Mo

[Galium]

Marriage
3 September 1867 at St Jude, Hunslet
Thomas Campleman 40 widower  joiner of Tender Street  s/o John Campleman ship carpenter

Jane Norton 23 spinster of Whitehouse Street d/o Mark Norton labourer

Witnesses: Joshua Thompson
                   Mary Ann Hodgson

1871 census 
24 Tender Street Hunslet

Thomas Campleman head  M 43 house carpenter  Bridlington
Jane Campleman  wife       M  31                              Lund
Oliver Campleman son       U  16                              Bradford
Joseph Warner step-son 8                                   Surrey, London
Randolph Campleman  son 1                                Leeds
Ellen Vairy                   S-i-L U  23                          Leeds


Jane Norton born in Lund appears with her parents in Lund in 1861, aged 17.  Her father is Mark Norton, ag lab.

However a Jane Campleman aged 24 died in Beverley district in December quarter 1867.

Also in Lund in 1861 is this family:

Richard Vary head 55
Jane Vary daur 21
Mary Vary daur 19
Ellen Vary daur 14

the daughters are all born in Lund.

20 May 1861
Marriage at Lund
Jane Vary to Joseph Warner.

Henry V Warner is likely to be Henry Vary Warner who appears in Leeds in 1911 aged 17.   I hope you are able to see this record for yourself as copyright rules don't allow me to give more details.