Gerrards of Beaminster, Dorset

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1871 RG10/62/7/8
17 Bradmore grove Hammersmith
John Gerrard 55 widow carpenter and joiner beaminster
Lucy 14 dau scholar and pupil teacher
John son 13 scholar
Philip 10 scholar
Jane 8 scholar
All children born Paddington

Cannot see a positive for John on 1841.

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Births Dec 1/4 1862   
Jane Yeatman Gerrard  Kensington  vol 1a page 28

Death of Jane nee Yeatman?
Same vol and page number. Two entries for the same person because there is a query re the correct age?
Deaths Sep 1/4 1866   
Jane  Gerrard age 37  Hampstead  vol 1a page 401   
Jane  Gerrard age 47  Hampstead  vol 1a page 401

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Couldn't find John on the 1881 census. This death fits with his age in 1871

Deaths Dec 1/4 1873   
John Gerrard age 58  Kensington  vol1a page 141

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Marriage of Harriet Yeatman - witness at John Gerrard and Jane Yeatman's marriage
14 Jan 1949 at St John Paddington Westminster
John Hills full age a bachelor occupation Engineer. father Edward Hills a farmer
Harriet yeatman a spinster of full age. Father Thomas a farmer

The witnesses were John and Jane Gerrard
 

[Tony A]

Has anybody managed to track down the birth certificate of John Gerrard who was born in Paddington, Middlesex (circa 1860), and who's death certificate records his death in Chelsea as 6th November 1897 at the age of 37?  Needless to say, I've browsed the Civil Registration Index but have been unable to find John's birth entry.  Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to offer me.  Tony.

[crisane]

Hi Tony
Do you mean this John? If so his age on the census
1861 RG 91/127/59
1 Windsor Place Paddington
John Gerrard 45 head carpenter born Beaminster
Jane Gerrard 40 wife Okeford Fitzpaine Dorset
Richard M Gerrard 16 carpenter's apprentice
Henry T Gerrard 11
Mary A Gerrard 8
Lucy A Gerrard 4
John Gerrard 3
Philip J Gerrard 11 Months
James Questian 24
All children born Paddington Middlesex

I found this when I was looking for more information

John Gerrard
Age - 21
Born Saddington, Middlesex about 1858
Service Start Year - 1879
Regiment - A. W. Corps
Regimental Number - 4045
Attestation Paper -Yes

[Tony A]

Thanks for the rapid reply crisane.  Yes, that's the John I'm interested in. I've found him in several census entries, (but not the service record, thank you!).  I've been specifically trying to get a copy of his birth certificate, but despite trawling through several years of the Birth Indexes have been unable to find a possible entry - hence my previous post.

[crisane]

Just found this on the GRO index
John Gerrard mmn Yeatman        
1855  June 1/4 in Kensington  vol 1a  page 18

But this son appears to have died
John Gerrard       
1856  March 1/4 Quarter in Kensington  vol 1a  page 10

All the other birth registrations are there, just not John's. Maybe for some reason they chose not to register his birth. It wasn't until 1874 that it became the parents' responsibility to register their children's births.

[Tony A]

Thanks again crisane.  I think I have come to the same conclusion as you, and will accept (for the time being...) that John's birth was not recorded.  By the way, how did you come to the conclusion that the 1855 index entry is associated with 'Yeatman'?