Evans

[ldavies]

Hi, i was wondering if anyone could help?

I have traced one side of my great grandfathers family back to 1881, the problem i have found is finding out about his father. His name was James Evans, born in London around 1863 (1901 states Middlesex, London. 1911 states Epson London). I have found him on census in 1891 living in Gilfach Goch with his wife Margaret A Evans. Then i have him in 1901 with his wife still plus their children, Margaret Leah Evans and Henry William Evans, along with her mother Margaret Evans and her son William Henry Evans - all very confusing i know! Why must they all share names lol.

I have looked on the 1881 census for James in Wales but cannot find him, im guessing he was still in England then, is there any way to find him?

Plus why would he leave england for Wales back then?

Thank you, Lyndsey

[Mabel Bagshawe]

If he really was born Epsom, that's Surrey rather than Middlesex

South Wales in the 1881s was a boom area -new mines and so forth - and there was a lot of inward migration. With a name like Evans he may well have family links back here anyway

[baggygenes]

what was his profession in Wales.  There is a James Evans born 1865 Marylebone Middlesex  at 9, Golborne Gardens, Kensington with parents David and Margaret Evans (both born in Wales).
Just a thought maybe although born in England he was Welshblooded and they just went home.

[ldavies]

hi both, thank you for the replys

I too thought that he may have been welsh blooded somehow. His profession in wales was a coal miner then an underground labourer.

I have also been looking at one of the census and staying with James was a visitor named Ethel Evans born around 1876 in Bristol along with an Emma Evans born around 1907 in Gilfach Goch and an Albert Evans born around 1910 also in Gilfach Goch - id assume that these are her children. Could this lady be James' sister? Or maybe just belonging to him?

[baggygenes]

The reason I asked his profession was the James I found was a Tailor ... it would seem a bit of a huge leap to go from that to mining!

[Morganllan]

Have you found the marriage for James and Margaret? That would hopefully provide the name and occupation of his Father?

I can't find a marriage of James Evans and Margaret Ann Evans 1889-90 

Do you have a birth certificate for one of their children, which confirms that Margaret's birth surname was Evans?

[osprey]

there's this possible
Margaret Ann Evans june qtr 1889 Bridgend vol 11a p 972 with James Evanes on the same page

 

[baggygenes]

What would the reg district be for Gilfach - Pontypridd?   I'm trying to find births for Emma and Albert the visitors - I'm assuming Evans was their mothers married name (not the the BMD will give you the maiden name for these dates unfortunately)  in which case if its a related Evans it's probably not a sister .. unless thats an Evans marrying another Evans!
On another note seeing as everyone likes sharing names is there a Leah in the family - maybe James mother or sister which may make him easier to find 71 and 81?

[osprey]

reg district for Gilfachgoch would be Pontypridd.

Who are Emma & Albert?