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ANDERSON + WINGATE
« on: Friday 01 June 12 10:12 BST (UK) »
Hello All,

I am still looking for info on the Anderson Family.

I now have

JAMES ANDERSON d 24th mar 1883 buried Dimboola Victoria.

Margaret Wingate d 1882 buried Dimboola Victoria.

JAMES ANDERSON  appears to have a will granted 26th Apr 1883
 could someone look this up for me please??.

Also Walter b 1872 Pleasanr Creek Vic
James b 1873 Pleasant Creek Vic

What would have become of the boys after the death of thier parents? would there have been a guardian appointed ?

Any suggestions appreciated as I have searched long and hard to no avail.

Margaret.( NZ)

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Re: Anderson + Wingate
« Reply #1 on: Friday 01 June 12 13:40 BST (UK) »
PROV will search is here, so you can have a look:

http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=54

Unfortunately there is only one digitised piece of information for  James Anderson -  a statemnt by a solicitor that there appears to be no will.  The index states that there was a grant of administration of the estate to "Curator".  I am not sure what this means  ??? (Could it be some kind of public trustee??)  Hopefully someone else will know.

Judith
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Re: Anderson + Wingate
« Reply #2 on: Friday 01 June 12 23:34 BST (UK) »
Thank You Judith,

I had got that far with the will but thought the next part might be able to be seen and give some clues??????/

it is quite frustrating not being able to find them.

margaret.

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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 02 June 12 01:55 BST (UK) »
Link to previous thread, if anyone is interested.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,505444.0.html

I wonder if the boys were fostered or adopted and perhaps took on new surnames  :-\

Judith
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Re: Anderson + Wingate
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 02 June 12 02:56 BST (UK) »
Hi,

They may haave been fostered by members of the community they lived in. My Great grandparents fostered a newborn child when the child's mother died leaving 5 children!!. She was not related but grew up as their eldest child. (not sure who looked after the other 4 children but they all survived into adulthood)

Within the same community other children were taken in as Wards of the state of Victoria when their mother died and their father deserted them. All reached adulthood but had quite distressing childhoods.

I understand that these early records may be availble on line.

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Re: Anderson + Wingate
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 02 June 12 02:59 BST (UK) »
Thank you  Judith & Robyn,

I have found a James Anderson as a State Ward in 1884 To a James Wilson ,
Can not confirm if it is my James Anderson.

Margaret.

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Re: Anderson + Wingate
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 02 June 12 03:19 BST (UK) »
Family members may have taken them in - from my calculation they would have been 10 & 11 - nearly the age that they could work and be an extra pair of hands.

Do you know what other family members there were living close by at the time?

Cheers, Ted
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Re: Anderson + Wingate
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 02 June 12 03:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Ted,

The only other family that I know of were the Wingates who were the Mothers Family.
Gabriel Wingate was in lauriston Vic. but he died in 1902.

Margaret.

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Re: Anderson + Wingate
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 02 June 12 03:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Margaret,

I have been looking at their Mother's family too. Now Walter the father died in 1883 the same year as James (the boys' father). I don't have dates so I am not sure who died first. Walter died in Clunes.

Mary Gilmore was already dead she died in 1866. However, I believe Walter remarried in 1871 to an Anne Jones. Anne died in 1912. she is buried in Creswick with a few other Wingate's in the Creswick cemetery with their residence listed as Allendale. There are no years mentioned though - only ages. Annie 69, James 39, James 79 and Walter 48.

I am off to find those deaths in the Ausralian index. At least I can rule them out.

Oh here is the link to Creswick cemetery so you can look yourself.

http://www.creswickcemetery.com.au/list-of-burials/new-cemetery/easytable/2-new-cemetery
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