Birth for Catherine or Kate Corke

[Sandymc47]

Wow, no wonder its been confusing.  From Woolwich, Kent, area of London for
Kate,  to the fact your Gran was born in Alderney the Channel Islands.
This is why its best to put all you know on the first post so that people
are not spending hours of their time looking for a ghost.
Glad you have found what you were looking for but it would have
been easier if the information you are now giving at the end of this post
was available at the beginning. 

regards Sandymc

[casalguidi]

marriage
Jane Kate Coulson Dec 1892 Ormskirk
either Joseph Rainford or John Hannah Gold

1901c
John H Gold 33 Salford General Furnishing Commercial Traveller
Kate 31 London
1 servant

there's also this birth entry on FreeBMD
Kate Coulson Jun qtr. 1866 Greenwich (Civil Parish of Woolwich in this Reg District)
vol 1 d page 738

So Kate COULSON would fit then as she married a Mr GOLD

Perhaps the relationship isn't quite correct in the newspaper report or maybe they were brought up together as sisters even though they weren't actually?  I see Priscilla's maiden name is WRIGHT (her widowed name was BOOKER when she married Charles COULSON) ............ what is Maria's?  Could one of Kate's parents be related to either Benjamin or Maria?

Casalguidi

[rosie99]

I don't know how reliable this is but Encyclopedia Titanica gives Katherine Gold's maiden name as Cook    (I suppose it is near enough to Cork    )
http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic-survivors/

Rosie

[Ladyhawk]

I don't know how reliable this is but Encyclopedia Titanica gives Katherine Gold's maiden name as Cook 

Here's another article from http://www.fhindexes.co.uk/samples/titanic.pdf

this is some of the info. from the article

Mrs Catherine Cook apprentice dressmaker, known as Kate born 1869 Woolwich, living Burton 1881 with Benjamin Cook or Cork who it would appear was a cousin.

Members of her family settled in Burton including her sister Mrs Windmill & her brother.

She moved to Liverpool entered service for White Star Line and married Mr J Gold he died turn of the century.

Mmm...am I reading this correctly - please correct me if I'm wrong 

If Kate Gold nee Cook was the cousin of Benjamin Cook/Cork she can't be the sister of Annie  Perhaps they brought up Kate as their own daughter 

I wonder what the initial 'J'  stands for in Mr J Gold   

1901  RG13; Piece: 2646; Folio: 148; Page: 24
Joseph Windmill  32 Walsall
Annie E 30 Alderney C.I.
Herbert A 9 Burton
Percy E 6  “
Harold H 4 “
Clarence V 2 “
William H Corke brother in law 24 Burton on Trent

At the moment the only marriage I have found was the one I posted earlier Jane Kate Coulson to John Hannah Gold  Lancashire BMD John H Gold & Jane K Coulson 1892 St Paul's Southport

for info. here she is on 1891 census with her mother Priscilla & 1901c with husband John Hannah Gold looks as if he died 1949 age 89 Liverpool John H Gold (b1868)

1901c
John H Gold 33 Salford General Furnishing Commercial Traveller
Kate 31 London
1 servant

1901 RG13; Piece: 3538; Folio: 38; Page: 25
Priscilla Coulson widow 69 Bath Sick Nurse

1891 RG12; Piece: 3037; Folio: 133; Page: 35
Priscilla Coulson widow 59 Somerset Bath District Nurse
Jane K Coulson 24 Woolwich Dressmaker

1881 Southport Infirmry & Dispensary
Priscilla Coulson Widow 44 Bath somerset Night Nurse

I have eliminated Kate Coulson. I actually sent for her birth certificate.
Her father was Charles Coulson Mother was Priscilla Coulson of 80 king Street Woolwich.

Kate was born on 19th April 1866. in King Street Woolwich

Going back over your thread I see from your reply you have already eliminated this Jane Kate Coulson b1866

[molly90]

Hi ladyhawk
Thank you for this.   The only reason I eliminated her was because I could not see how
she could have been born in woolwich in 1869-when Grandma was born in Alderney in 1871.
The family must have moved to Burton from the C.I between 1873 and 1877.  Herbert was born
in Alderney in 1873.  William was born in Walsall in 1877. 
I cannot trace any family at all in Kent.
It certainly fits that Kate Coulson was an assistant dressmaker, born in Woolwich
in 1869 and married a Mr J Gold.  She was known as Kate Gold on the Titanic.  I am afraid I have no idea what his given name was.  She could have course have been illegitimate.
Anyway I will send for the marriage certificate for Jane Kate Coulson and see if that tells us anything.
Annie.s mother's name was Maria E chamberlaine born1837 in Bedminster Glove? Her Father's name was Benjamin born in 1835 Hadley Town Sussex.  I gave a lot of this information out this afternoon but was unable to post it for some reason.  I will let you know when I receive the marriage certificate.
THANK YOU ALL

[KGarrad]

Annie.s mother's name was Maria E chamberlaine born1837 in Bedminster Glove? Her Father's name was Benjamin born in 1835 Hadley Town Sussex. 

That would be Hadlow Down!
And Maria born Bedminster - not sure where you've seen "Glove"?

[rosie99]

If it is John Hannah Gold he is on Ellis Island website arriving New York from Liverpool 18th September 1917 a Steward on the  'Lapland'

Rosie

[molly90]

Hello again
The family tree that I have has actually been written by a cousin of mine.  The name did look like
Glove.   Grandma had 7 sons 
It does get interesting-one of her sons was called Leslie Coulson Windmill (Coulson used as a christian name) He was a lamp boy on the Railway-and killed in an accident in 1919.
We also found on the 1911 census that Grandma had had a daughter who died in infancy, who we did not know anything about.  (She could have had a sister that no-one knew about too!!)
Very Interesting about John Hanna Gold being on Ellis Island.  He was a steward and Kate was a
stewardess-Mmmm.
I am begining to think I made a mistake when I eliminated Kate Coulson.
I will send for the marriage certificate of Jane Kate Coulson.
If that fails I will send for birth certificate for Catherine Frances.
Thanks again
Molly

[Debra windmill]

Hi
My grandfather was Percy windmill.  His mother was Annie nee cork.   I have always been told about a relative on the titanic so kate gold is indeed part of our family - somewhere.
Debra windmill