whitfield in harrogate

[Sandymc47]

Hi there

There is a Bilton,  just over a mile from Harrogate, which also includes
Bilton Dene, and Bilton Hall in the same area. If its crossed out on the
census that means he wasn't born there.   
Phonetically Alendall with an accent is quite possibly Allendale.
You have to give some flexibility with the census due to the fact
they had heavy accents in those days and also most people
could not correct the spelling as they could not read or write.
 

regards
Sandymc

[suzard]

Hi there


  
Phonetically Alendall with an accent is quite possibly Allendale.
You have to give some flexibility with the census due to the fact
they had heavy accents in those days and also most people
could not correct the spelling as they could not read or write.
 

regards
Sandymc

1871 census p.o.b.on image is Allendale - it is only the transcription which is Allendall

Suz

[Sandymc47]

Ya i sed t'at it is. Yorkshire is a viking speel cut down as ye spek
't and only Yorkies na wat u sayin'
Try getting Allendale, Northumberland owt t'at laugh

regards Sandymc 

[suzard]

My point was that on the image it was written as "Allendale" so it is nothing to do with misunderstanding
We should always look at the image and from that transcribe what we read ( that also saves us from breaking copyright rules)
The image has been transcribed as "Allendall" - I believe the transcriptions were done electronically 

Suz

[KGarrad]

There is a Bilton,  just over a mile from Harrogate, which also includes
Bilton Dene, and Bilton Hall in the same area. If its crossed out on the
census that means he wasn't born there.   

It's not even Bilton/Belton, because it begins with "K"!

See snippet - 1st entry is Matthew; 3rd line is grandson John Thomas.

[toniguzzi]

hi KGarrad

if you look at the 3 census copies
1861 B.House, Yorshire
1871 Allendall , Yorkshire
1881 Bilton , yorkshire

the one your looking at looks like he put one of his kids as kellah (in his line perhaps reason it was crossed out), pronunciation , spelt Kelloe, about 5mile from Sumby hill Crook where Susan eleanor his daugter was born in 1853.
i have hime residence in ferrhilly in 1871 about a mile from Kelloe
but it still does not explain the reference on the census to yorks/ yorkshire & Bilton

i cannot track him any firther back 
i wish it was allendale im sure it would be much easier and make more sense.

even worse hi wife isabella Davison comes from a tiny hamlet near berwick upon tweed hatton law, lowick
and i cant find her parents .

sandymc47 comments are being looked at but once again lots of dead ends

[KGarrad]

the one your looking at looks like he put one of his kids as kellah (in his line perhaps reason it was crossed out), pronunciation , spelt Kelloe, about 5mile from Sumby hill Crook where Susan eleanor his daugter was born in 1853.

"He"  didn't put anything!
What you are seeing is what the enumerator wrote down, and that is based on what he thought he heard!!

[toniguzzi]

ok hope i solved my whitfield side

as i couldnt find a bilton etc ... i looked further and found
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/SBPQ-J3Y
which nicely laid out a whitfield family in arkengarthdale

could Arkengarthdale or Arkendale sound like Allendale to a geordie when spoken to by a yorkshireman

there is a small chance that bilton could be milton a small village nr there , but i followed this family to
Brough under stainmore , then when father died joshua whitfield d 1844 in brough , the family moved to
leadgate/ medomsley area and seems exteneded family as well the Beckwith and Lightburn !!!
this fell in nicely with marriage of Matthew to isabella Davison in Medomsley in 1845

id still like to take whitfield line further my last link is john whitfield b about 1745, married 1769 to Margaret Raw possibly in Arkengarthdale

Also i wonder why the whole family moved to Brough for a few years , I did notice a long line of whitfield in Brough going back a long way but couldnt link them

Any help appreciated

[Gragareth]

My suggestion may mislead you so be careful !     There is a village called
Arkendale not far from Harrogate.       
 Gragareth.