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whitfield in harrogate
« on: Friday 25 May 12 10:20 BST (UK) »
hi

hoping to find a lead on a Matthew Whitfield ,b 1823 ive found 2 records
he married an Isabella !, and shows born locations as alendall Yorshire !!!! cannot find any thing like this or a bit more weird B House Harrogate = possibly the registration office Bilton house , park road (then ) it is now of births etc
he moved to Crook in wear valley

but i was hoping to find out who isabella was and any previous on Matthew

any help appreciated

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Re: whitfield in harrogate
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 May 12 10:59 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Do you have Matthew on the 1851 census living with his mother Eleanor? There is an Isabella included in the family but she is recorded as daughter ???

HO107; Piece: 2389; Folio: 437; Page: 3

Could this be the Mathew you are looking for?

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Re: whitfield in harrogate
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 May 12 11:05 BST (UK) »
Could the place of birth be Allendale in Northumberland?

If you go to the GenUKI page for Allendale (http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Allendale/index.html), there is a link to:
The Whitfields of Allendale!
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: whitfield in harrogate
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 May 12 11:45 BST (UK) »
hi jjen

no dosent sound like him !! i cant understand why you would use a registry office in harrogate as a place of birth

and KGarrad

wish it was allendale in northumberland but im pretty sure its Yorks, harrogate area ive seen a coppy of 2 census that confirm Yorks


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Re: whitfield in harrogate
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 May 12 12:06 BST (UK) »
The modern Harrogate combined the towns of Low Harrogate (in Pannal parish) and High Harrogate (Knaresborough parish).

Checking GenUKI's "Where is it in Yorkshire", the following comes up:

Beckwith House, Pannal

More likely, I would suggest, than a Register Office? ;D
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: whitfield in harrogate
« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 May 12 13:32 BST (UK) »
confusing

i did see a B.house harrogate on a record but cant find it now , but have found this

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NLZ7-18N

may help if anyone can see the original record

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Re: whitfield in harrogate
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 May 12 13:56 BST (UK) »
hi

hoping to find a lead on a Matthew Whitfield ,b 1823 ive found 2 records
he married an Isabella !, and shows born locations as alendall Yorshire !!!! cannot find any thing like this or a bit more weird B House Harrogate = possibly the registration office Bilton house , park road (then ) it is now of births etc
he moved to Crook in wear valley

but i was hoping to find out who isabella was and any previous on Matthew

any help appreciated

I think you may have found "Alendall" on 1871 Census - which is very mistranscribed
I'll post the 3 census which look like Him

1861
Sunny Side Durham
Matthew Whitfield head M 38 Coal Miner B.House Yorks
Isabellwife 36 Northumberland
Elizabeth daughter 9 scholar Tow Lane Durham
Susann daughter 7 scholar Bun??y Hill Durham
John son 5 Colliery Dikes Northumberland
RG9 3715 47 16

1871
Ferry Hill Durham
Matthew Whitfield Head M 48 coal miner Allendale Yks
Isabella wife 47 Hatton lane Northumberland
John son 15 coal miner Dy?on Northumberland
Arthur Ward Lodger 20 (crossed through)
Isabella Whitfield daughter 9 scholar Sunnyside Durham
John Ward Boarder U 23 lab Ferry Hill Durham
RG10 4911 44 25

1881
Quarry House Cottages Lanchester Durham
Matthew Whitfield 58 coal miner Bilton (crossed through) Yorks
Isabel wife 57 Nothumberland
John Thomas Barker grandson 12 Kelloe Durham
Isabel Barker granddaughter 10 Kelloe Durham
James Barker grandson Kelloe Durham
RG11 4949 96 15

May help with the research

I cannot find any connection with Harrogate?????

Suz
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Re: whitfield in harrogate
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 29 May 12 11:54 BST (UK) »
hi Suz

thanks for help again
ive got these records but im stuck its this b.house  or Bilton in yorkshire that i can't
find anywhere the only thing is harrogate records house which is Bilton House !!!!!

very confusing i dont think the Geordie census takers could understand a yorkshireman LOL

thanks jjen i do have 1851 record


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Re: whitfield in harrogate
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 May 12 12:08 BST (UK) »
I think you have to get the idea of the register office out of your head! ;D

The column on the census asked for "Where Born", and the enumerators were instructed to put a town or village, county, or country.
I have never seen a house name mentioned on any census.

And the 1881 census doesn't say Bilton!
It's the same place of birth as grandson John Thomas (Kelloe?) And, as Suzard says, it's been crossed out.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)