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Re: Armstrong in Rowfoot nr Haltwhistle
« Reply #9 on: Friday 25 May 12 10:03 BST (UK) »


 Census of 1871 was taken as at 2nd April.

 Census Enumerators were not asked specifically to record place of birth. The census page column was headed " Where Born"

 Enumerators chose whether to record " Parish of Birth" or " place of birth"

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Re: Armstrong in Rowfoot nr Haltwhistle
« Reply #10 on: Friday 25 May 12 19:21 BST (UK) »
hi Suz

its looking good ive re looked at medomsley record it looks good
George was married on 27th may 1871 maybe before the census
hence he's not there !

are the bishops transcripts of Roberts birth or christening etc
and parents robert and mary
these dont seem to match the family search you found earlier
for a
Baptism-familysearch
Haltwhistle Northumberland
Robert Armstrong
5 May 1822
parents John & Jane Armstrong


i would plumb for bishops records if its a birthdate

I'm not quite sure what you mean??

I posted a christening for a Robert with parents John and Jane - I thought it may be a possibility for the Robert you were enquiring about

You can look at the record yourself free at familysearch

I don't think I found a christening record of Robert with parents Robert and Mary????

Are you getting Robert & George mixed up???

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Re: Armstrong in Rowfoot nr Haltwhistle
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 26 May 12 11:56 BST (UK) »
In 1871 census Robert gives his place of birth as Rowfoot, which is in Featherstone township.

A baptism at Haltwhistle. 27 August 1820. Robert, son of William and Dorothy Armstrong of Rowfoot. Fathers occupation - Labourer.

Other children baptized to the same parents, all of Rowfoot.

William, 20 Feb 1819. (Buried Haltwhistle, 28 Feb 1819, aged 8 days).
William, 19 Mar 1826. (born 15 Nov 1822).
Margaret, 19 Mar 1826.
George, 15 Jun 1828.
Jane, 28 Mar 1830.

This looks like Roberts parents in 1841 census :

Maidenway, Featherstone,
William Armstrong, 50, Farmer, b. Scotland.
Dorothy Armstrong, 50, Y,
Margaret Armstrong, 15, Y,
Jane Armstrong, 11, Y,
Robert Armstrong, 9, Y,
Joseph Armstrong, 6, Y,
HO107/839/18/7/8

The Robert aged 9 looks to be their grandson.

A baptism at Haltwhistle, 21 Jan 1831.  Robert Armstrong, son of Mary Armstrong, Spinster, of Rowfoot.

The Robert aged 20 at Kellah in 1841, aged 20, found by Suz, is probably the right one.  Three pages away from Rowfoot, with older sister Mary and her younger children, and younger brother William. William and Dorothy Armstrong at Maidenway are one page away.

William and Dorothy in 1851 census.

Maiden Way, Featherstone.
William Armstrong, 61, Ag Lab, b. Scotland.
Dorothy Armstrong, 60, wife, b. Haltwhistle,
Margaret Armstrong, 24, dau, b. Haltwhistle,
Joseph Armstrong, 16, grandson, Coal Miner b. Haltwhistle,
Jane Armstrong, 11, granddau, 11, b. Haltwhisle,
Dorothy Armstrong, graddau, 1, b. Haltwhistle,
HO107/2416/104/14

William in 1861, with son in law Robert Robson, daughter Mary,  and family :

Maidenway, Featherstone,
Robert Robson, 49, Coal Miner and Farmer, b. Fairlam, Cumberland,
Mary Robson, 49, wife, b. Lambley,
John Armstrong, son, 23, Coal Miner, b. Featherstone,
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William Armstrong, boarder, wid, 73, Ag Lab, b. Scotland.
RG9/3866/84/5

A baptism at Lambley on Familysearch.
12 Jul 1812. Mary, Daughter of William and Dorothy Armstrong.

A possible marriage at Lambley.

21 Aug 1808. William Armstrong and Dorothy Little.

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Re: Armstrong in Rowfoot nr Haltwhistle
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 29 May 12 05:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Suz
Been reviewing all
My Robert was born 1822 in haltwhistle not 1819 so have discounted all ref to row foot it was a red herring see 1851 census at spittle age 29

More probable your baptism rec for 1822 haltwhistle is right

The 1861 record shows Roberts dob as 1820 ugh confusing and pob as featherstone do
 I'll keep digging


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Re: Armstrong in Rowfoot nr Haltwhistle
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 29 May 12 16:33 BST (UK) »
a baptism date is not a birth date

Often children were baptised a few weeks after they were born

sometimes on the parish records the birthdate will be recorded -but not always

Sometimes more than one child was baptised at the same time or families were baptised together.

So you can't take the baptism year as y.o.b.

There is a baptism to "fit" Robert being baptised 1820

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Re: Armstrong in Rowfoot nr Haltwhistle
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 03 July 12 13:25 BST (UK) »
im really strugling to find any mention of where william b1791 appox Scotland was born
ive checked on familysearch but its Scottish records are lacking detail
I have found 8 William Armstrongs born between 1789-1791, there may be more !!!!
1790 coldstream father william
1791 edrom father john
1791 bedrule father john
1790 eckford father william
1790 Hawick parents henry, hellen elliot
1791 penpont parents john, jean ferguson
1790 langholm parents john, hannah lawson
1789 westerkirk father richard

any suggestions apreciated , I have trawled through the familysearch scanned images from haltwhistle hoping to find a clue No luck
i cant see if any brothers or sisters followed him down from scotland , he must have been quite young the first record i have seen is of his  son williamb 1819 which lists father as farm labourer

any help appreciated