Arthur and Louisa FEARN

[shilo]

Annie Fearn
died 1891 Carlton, Victoria
parents Arth and Louisa Collyer
Registered Victoria
Reg no 751

[cando]

Transcribed from the indexes

FEARN Alfred
Father Arthur  Mother Louisa COLLIE
At Carlton  1890  Reg#305*91 Died 11 weeks  Carlton  1891 Reg#750

FEARN Annie
Father Arthur  Mother Louisa COLLIE
At Carlton   1890  Reg#30590   Died  11 weeks Carlton Reg#751

FEARN Arthur
Father Arthur  Mother Louisa COLLIER
At Carlton  1889  Reg#10527   Died  7 months Carlton  1890  Reg#853

FEARN Louisa
Father Arthur  Mother Louisa COLLER
At Collingwood  1892  Reg#31522   Died 2 years Collingwood 1895  Reg#5079

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Death of a child whose birth is not registered.  Born c1893

Death
FEARN Arthur
Father Arthur  Mother Annie AULT
At Colac  1 year  1894  Reg#5436

Birth
FEARN Annie
Father Arthur  Mother Annie HAULD
At Geelong  1895  Reg#29645

The above birth certificate shows previous issue of the marriage as
Louisa 4 years and Arthur deceased.

Arthur declared he married Annie AULD in 1883 in Derby England and he was the informant.  So he was fathering children with his legal wife Louisa, as well and Annie AULD. Oh dear

Birth
18424/1897
FERN May    
Father Arthur Mother Annie
District Sydney

Death
10620/1897
FEARN May
Father Arthur  Mother Annie
District Sydney

2120/1901    
FEARN Mabel
Father Arthur  Mother Annie
District Burwood

Birth with incorrect mother's name
19947/1903
FEARN Arthur
Father Arthur  Mother Alice
District Burwood

Death
9584/1903
FEARN Arthur
Father Arthur  Mother Annie
District Burwood

2118/1906    
FEARN Eliza E
Father Arthur  Mother Annie
District Burwood   


Burials at Geelong Eastern Cemetery  
Location COE/9/222
FEARN Annie  76 years
Buried  24 Aug 1935

FEARN Arthur 76 years
Buried 26 Oct 1932

I can't locate a burial for Louisa at any of the online cemeteries. She may be buried at Melbourne General Cemetery and if so there is no headstone.

Cando

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hello cando

what the 

I'm not sure if I am understanding what you are saying 

do you mean he was married in England to Annie AULD who is annie Ault  1883 in Derby
came to Oz in 1884 married to Louisa Collier in England 1882( who was married to  ?? Redfern)
then went back to Annie AULD who is annie Ault
and re married her  on 9th July 1923 

he was a police man 


Im confusing my self now LOL LOL LOL

[cando]

During the process of registering a birth you are required to furnish the date and place of the marriage of the parents.
Arthur FEARN declared he married Annie AULT in 1883 in England...he was lying.  He couldn't even get the year of his marriage right.  If you don't give the place and date of marriage then the birth would be registered under both parents' names which would indicate illegitimacy.

Marriages Dec 1882   
FEARN Arthur         Burton 6b/689    
REDFERN Louisa         Burton 6b/689

Marriage in Victoria - after the death of Louisa
FEARN Arthur
AULT Annie
1923  Reg#6926

Australian Electoral Roll
1914
FEARN Annie  11 Summer Street, East Geelong  Home duties
FEARN Arthur  11 Summer Street, East Geelong  Butcher

1919
FEARN Annie  Carrington Street, East Geelong  HD
FEARN Arthur Carrington Street, East Geelong  Butcher

1919
FEARN Annie 1 Collins Street, St Albans  HD
FEARN Arthur 1 Collins Street, ST Albans  Butcher

1924 and 1931
FEARN Annie 39 Tucker Street, Breakwater  HD
FEARN Arthur  39 Tucker Street, Breakwater Butcher

Cando

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ok still a bit confused here 

did he marry Annie AULT 1883 in England or was it a different year or he didn't marry her at all until the marriage in Geelong 9th July 1923

Also on the marriage certificate Geelong 9th July 1923

for Annie Ault it states she was a widower " actual date unknown approx 30 years in England "

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There's also a death certificate for Arthur Fearn, butcher on one of the trees ...

He died 21 Oct 1932 in Geelong Hospital with Diabetes and Gangrene of legs

He was born in England, had been in Vic 60 years. Married 68 years Annie Ault (living)    NO ISSUE    

cheers,
   Ros
Adding : Parents = George Fearn, hotel keeper and Eliza Fearn, formerly Black.
              Age 76 years

[cando]

did he marry Annie AULT 1883 in England or was it a different year or he didn't marry her at all Huh until the marriage in Geelong 9th July 1923

Arthur FEARN declared he married Annie AULT in 1883 in England...he was lying.

Cando

He had been in Vic 60 years. Married 68 years Annie Ault (living)    NO ISSUE

Information on death certificates is not reliable.  In this case the informant was an undertakers assistant.

The column headings need to be read to correctly interpret the information.

In this case the info is ........Married [at] 68 years [to] Annie Ault [Living]

Perhaps Annie was not present to give any information.  There were definitely two living children, possibly three with Louisa.

Cheers
Cando

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Hello Ros

thats him

but as Cando has just said he wasn't married for 68 years

that would also mean he was married at the age of 5
he wasn't born until 1859 

thanks Cando

got it  now 

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Cando

can you please find a birth for a

Louisa  Fearn or  Louisa Maude Fearn
born abt 1890 Melbourne
parents Arthur Fearn and Anne Ault


I have looked but I am not finding anything
she is definitely thiers I think or she is saying she is theirs LOL
I have seen her marriage cert for her wedding to a George Crouch
5 Feb 1912 at St Paul's church Canterbury, nsw
thank you   

Jackie

Ps also a death would be good to