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Death Penny
« on: Monday 21 May 12 02:41 BST (UK) »
Hi. I have recently came into possession of a British Death Penny inscribed with the name BERNARD CALLAGHAN.. My wife and I found it amongst my now deceased father in laws belongings after he passed away and have no idea who BERNARD was but I imagine he was a family member.. My father in laws g/parents were originally from Ireland, one being prodestant and one catholic and we have always been led to believe they fled Ireland for obvious reason and settled in Sheffield or there abouts..

Can anyone suggest how I can find out who BERNARD may have been.. Any help would be greatly appreciated..

Graham. (Australia)

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Re: Death Penny
« Reply #1 on: Monday 21 May 12 05:47 BST (UK) »
We are not allowed to do lookups of the 1911 census, but I think giving you a clue may be acceptable?

In 1911 there is an 18 year old by that name living in Sheffield. There is also a 58 year old living in Sheffield.

Leaving out the residence of Sheffield, there are many many other Bernard Callaghans ... and your Bernard could be any of those of course.  :-\

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Re: Death Penny
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 May 12 06:57 BST (UK) »
I  googled Death Penny Bernard Callaghan and he is on the Nominal Roll it says Bernard Callaghan Pte 1080 Dis Ignomony 19/11/1877  1st Batallion of the 13 th Foot Somerset . Dont know if this helps. Lynette
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Re: Death Penny
« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 May 12 07:17 BST (UK) »



Quote from: lyn22 on Monday 21 May 12 06:57 BST (UK)
I  googled Death Penny Bernard Callaghan and he is on the Nominal Roll it says Bernard Callaghan Pte 1080 Dis Ignomony 19/11/1877  1st Batallion of the 13 th Foot Somerset . Dont know if this helps. Lynette

I don't think the Dead Man's Penny was issued until World War One, Lynette. Online sources say 1916. This should really be moved to either the West Yorkshire board for Sheffield, or the Armed Forces board. Better let the mods decide.

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Re: Death Penny
« Reply #4 on: Monday 21 May 12 07:27 BST (UK) »
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: Death Penny
« Reply #5 on: Monday 21 May 12 07:43 BST (UK) »
His father Martin b 1856 Chesterfield.Derbyshire can be found on the 1881 census,,living with his father,,,who was born Ireland.
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: Death Penny
« Reply #6 on: Monday 21 May 12 07:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks Pels I jumped the gun you are fast gortonboy good work
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Re: Death Penny
« Reply #7 on: Monday 21 May 12 10:35 BST (UK) »
He Died Of Wounds recieved in action 15/11/15 deployed to France in June 1915 with 1/4th York and Lancasters so was a Territorial Soldier.
Looks like he died back in UK at Colchester
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Is this the correct family? as there is a Royal Marine from Sheffield of the same name and age  KIA in May 1916 Mum listed as Emma?

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Re: Death Penny
« Reply #8 on: Monday 21 May 12 22:20 BST (UK) »
Hi, and thank you all for your replies re: Bernard Callaghan..

Ady, you asked "is this the right family" and I am unable to answer that because the only thing we know is my father in laws name was Norman William Fields and his parents were John William Fields and WINSOME HOPE CALLAGHAN so I am pressuming that Bernard was possibly Winsome's brother or maybe uncle..

Norman was a strange man and for whatever reason he would not talk about his family.. Whenever my wife asked him about her roots all he would say was "what do you want to know that for"..

My wifes name is * and she was born in Sheffield on * and her mum was Delma (Richards) who was Australian.

Other than that she knows nothing at all about the Callaghan side of her family except for the Death Penny and her Gran's maiden name and that is making our search near impossible..

Graham..

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