Frederick Holden & Family, Bolton

[Pete51]

I've seen that Jan, 10 months old.

[Pete51]

Jan 57 You're a star!

[chezbrunetfrance]

Hi Pete 51
I've looked at your picture of the gravestone, have you been able to verify where Walter comes from?  On the stone it says beloved grandson died age 7 on 31/1/1883 which puts his birth 1875/1876 so he should have appeared on the 1881 census, but have had no luck with that yet. There are two Walters on the BMD list for that time one in 1875 and one in 1876.  I am hoping that you know. 

Look forward to hearing from you.

Regards
Chez

[chezbrunetfrance]

Hi again,
just seen your message re Richard being born in Westhoughton and being a 'crofter'.  Did you know that the term 'crofter' can also mean working in the making of cloth.  After the cloth was bleached it was put out to dry on huge frames set out on open land which were called 'crofts' and if he was a man who did this his job description would have been 'crofter' and as most of his family worked in the cloth industry which was the biggest employer in that area then it could stand to reason that he was that type of crofter.
If you knew this then obviously I am preaching to the converted as they say.
Hope to talk soon
Chez

[Pete51]

Hi Chez, Young Walter was the illegitimate son of Emma Holden b 1857.

I've sent you a PM.

Regards Pete.