Frederick Holden & Family, Bolton

[chezbrunetfrance]

I have been trying to trace my great-grandfather, Fred's,  family and have been able to find that he was born to a John and Jane Holden.  On looking thru census records I see that they also had an Annie who was an invalid and a Mary E.  Fred was born in Bolton in 1869 but I have been unable to trace John and Jane's marriage.  They appear on the censuses for 1871, 1881, 1891, (then John and Annie disappears) and Jane and Mary E are on the 1901 census but no trace of them on the 1911 census.  Fred was married to a Mary Barlow who then went on to have 5 children with my grandmother, Emily, being the eldest.  They were both also publicans for a time having the Lord Byron and the Egerton Arms in Bolton.  I am hoping that someone can find out Fred's mother's maiden name so I can trace her family and also John's family.  I have also been unable to find any registered deaths (except for Fred's) for John, Jane, Annie and Mary E.   If anyone can point me in the right direction I would be extremely grateful.

Regards
Chezbrunet

[keyboard86]

Hi have you discounted this possible marriage:-

John Holden to (on same page) Jane Harris Dec qtr 1867 Bolton 8c 351 ?

Keyboard86

[msr]

The couple mentioned by Keyboard were married in St John, Bolton

[chezbrunetfrance]

Hi, were these on the bmd's registers

[chezbrunetfrance]

sorry pressed the wrong button before I finished.  Are they on the bmd or parish registers ?

Chez

[msr]

Hi Chez

Look on http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk

Births marriages and deaths at local offices.

Su

[trish1120]

Marriage;
02 November 1867, St  Johns, Bolton Le Mooors, Lancashire
John HOLDEN, Father RICHARD Holden
Jane HARRIS, Father JOSEPH Harris
Both Single
(Source Familysearch.Org)

Trish

[chezbrunetfrance]

Thxs, that gives me some place to start.

regards
Chez

[trish1120]

1841 they are under HILDEN in Bolton Le Moors;
Richard Hilden, 30, Finisher
Ann Hilden, 20
James Hilden, 6
JOHN Hilden, 1
All born in County
HO107/536/2/Bolton Le Moors

1851 we have;
Richard 1809, Westhoughton, Occp Bleacher
Ann 1817, L Bolton
James 16
JOHN 11
Mary 8
Richard 6
Henry 3

1861 John is still at home, unm, Occp ? at Bleachworks
Richard/Ann have 3 more Children
RG9/2821/20/33

Probable Marriage from Lans OPC;
Marriage: 28 Jun 1835 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England
Richard HOLDEN - of This parish
Ann RAWSTHORNE - of This parish

Trish