Curran's of Swansea

[douglasdee]

Searching for ancestors of Sydney Curran b:1876 and wife Elizabeth Ann Curran (nee Arthur) Born 1878. Believe Sydney's father Robert Curran born 1933 in "Oxfordshire" but no record of a Robert Curran birth there.

[KGarrad]

From 1891 census, reference RG12, Piece 4483, Folio 97, Page 19
Vernon House, 71 St Helens Avenue, Swansea

Curran, Robert  Head  M  58  Mariner  b Oxford
Curran, Mary A  Wife  F  50  Dressmaker  b Llandovery, Carmarthenshire
Curran, William  Son  M  26  Mariner  b Swansea
Curran, Robert L  Son  M  22  Shipwright  b Swansea
Curran, Edward  Son  M  19  b Swansea
Curran, Sidney D  Son  M  15  Moulders Apprentice  b Swansea
Hackle, Mary A  Daughter  Married  F  26  Dressmaker  b Swansea
Curran, Alfred E  Son  M  12  Scholar  b Swansea
Hackle, Frank  Son-in-Law  M  26  Painter  b Swansea
Hackle, Beatrice  Granddaughter  F  4  Scholar  b Swansea
Hackle, William  Grandson  M  2  b Swansea
Williams, William  Brother-in-Law  M  40  Painter  b SWansea

caveat: ages are hard to read, due to enumerators marks!


1881 census: RG11, 5356, 89, 13
55 Wellington Street, Swansea

Curran, Robert  Head  M  48  Mariner  b Oxford
Curran, Mary A  Wife  F  40  Dressmaker  b Llandovery, Carmarthenshire
Curran, William  Son  M  16  Railway Block Making  b Swansea
Curran, Robert L  Son  M  13  Scholar  b Swansea
Curran, Edward  Son  M  9  Scholar  b Swansea
Curran, Sidney D  Son  M  5  Scholar  b Swansea
Curran, Mary A  Daughter  Married  F  26  Dressmaker  b Swansea
Curran, Alfred E  Son  M  2  Scholar  b Swansea


And a marriage:
December qtr 1863
Swansea district    vol 11a, page 830

Curran, Robert
+ and on the same page +
Williams, Mary Anne

[douglasdee]

good information and push the boat a bit does anybody know the ancestors of Robert Curran, b Oxford?

[KGarrad]

Sorry! Can't find Robert in 1841, 1851 or 1861 censuses?

Looks like you might need to purchase that marriage certificate, to find who Robert's father was?

[bernard_lewis]

If you Google 'Cambrian index' you'll come to the search page for the Cambrian newspaper which was printed in Swansea.

Enter just 'Curran' as your search term and you'll see references to a lot of stuff about Swansea Curran's; some of them seem to have been quite naughty!

Bernard

[Morganllan]

There are also several Curran members listed in the 1913/14 Swansea Directory:

http://archive.org/details/swanseadistrictd00swanuoft

[Malcolm33]

Searching for ancestors of Sydney Curran b:1876 and wife Elizabeth Ann Curran (nee Arthur) Born 1878. Believe Sydney's father Robert Curran born 1933 in "Oxfordshire" but no record of a Robert Curran birth there.

   Did you ever find out more about Robert Curran?  One Census - 1901 - gives his birthplace as London, though the 1891 census gives Oxford St. James.
    The other Swansea Curran's go back to Samuel Worrell Curran born Glasgow 1810 - he married Harriet Blackwell in Liverpool - and Samuel's father was William Curran who married Agnes Laurie.   Very strange that we cannot find Robert or his family earlier than 1881 - Where was his wife Mary Anne and son William John in 1871?    William John was 16 in 1881 so should be somewhere in 1871.
    That marriage certificate may be the only way to find out who Robert was and where he was born.

[NENAOK]

Hi
Hope you can help me, i have a "John Curran " age unknown!, so far, i have found him in london in 1945 & 1946, living in Westminster London.

Do you have any information please?.

Regards
Nena

[Ladyhawk]

 
Very strange that we cannot find Robert or his family earlier than 1881 -

Where was his wife Mary Anne and son William John in 1871?   

William John was 16 in 1881 so should be somewhere in 1871.

That marriage certificate may be the only way to find out who Robert was and where he was born.

Same address as 1881c as posted by KGarrad

1871c  RG10; Piece: 5450; Folio: 99; Page: 29;
55 Wellington St., Swansea
Surname CARRAN
Mary Ann wife 29 Llandovey Carmarthen Sailors wife
WILLIAM JOHN  6 Swansea Glamorgan
May Ann 6                  ditto
Robert Lewis 3            ditto

From GRO Indexes giving mmn
Robert Lewis CURRAN mmn WILLIAMS 
1867  D Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 562

Sidney Wickens CURRAN mmn WILLIAMS 
1876  J Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 745

Robert Curran
Birth   1833 Oxford
Date:   1871-1872
Service Number:   40256
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8173571

Oops just noticed the date of the post  - you probably have discovered all this info.