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Re: Where in Russia ?
« Reply #27 on: Monday 18 November 13 18:16 GMT (UK) »
No apologies necessary AVM288, I appreciate all the inputs I can get.  And yes, there is what looked to me like an "f" between "his" and "mark" on the document, but I didn't know what this was or meant. Now I can see clearly that it is an X somewhat angled backwards.  Regardless, and as you and Justin pointed out, now I know that "his mark" means the handwriting on the document was not my great-grandfathers. 

And Justin, yes that's extremely useful information on the burials of Colman and Sarah.  I did see the record of a Colman Diamond in 1940, but didn't order the death certificate because of my past bad luck in spending money and coming up wrong.  The fact that Sarah is next to him clinches this.  Where did you get the burial plot information?  Would there be any useful information on the death certificates, were I to order them now?

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« Reply #28 on: Monday 18 November 13 18:22 GMT (UK) »
Justin, I just noticed something.  In your last post you stated:

Shayeh Pulman (groom) married Khayeh Diament (bride) in Skierniewice in 1889.

But in a previous post you stated:

Kalman Diament married Szejwa (Shey-va) Pulman in 1887.

Did these pieces of info come from different sources?  I'm wondering why the difference?

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« Reply #29 on: Monday 18 November 13 20:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mark,

Both marriage records come from the same database; and they are two different couples! It would seem possible, if not likely, that Kalman had a sister named Khayeh who married Sheyva's brother Shayeh.

Multiple marriages between two families was commonplace; in my own family there were four marriages between members of two families.

I can't see that the death certificates would provide any essential information. I'd be far more interested in getting photos of their gravestones.

Justin

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« Reply #30 on: Monday 18 November 13 20:44 GMT (UK) »
Whoa!  How would one go about doing that?  I'm no where near Enfield Cemetary nor do I plan to be anytime soon.  I'm located in southern California.
Mark


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Re: Where in Russia ?
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« Reply #32 on: Monday 18 November 13 21:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mark,

It could be easier than you think. Take a look at this http://genpals.co.uk/blog/headstone-photos-jewish-cemeteries/

Kalman/Colman and Sarah are buried in the first one on the list, the Adath Yisroel Cemetery in Enfield.

Justin

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« Reply #33 on: Monday 18 November 13 21:34 GMT (UK) »
That's just Awesome, and you guys are Awesome for the wealth of information you've given me!  I can't thank you enough!

BTW, Justin, can you tell me where you obtained the burial information? I haven't been able to locate this myself.

Mark

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« Reply #34 on: Monday 18 November 13 21:39 GMT (UK) »
The burial info comes from one of JewishGen's databases.

Justin

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« Reply #35 on: Monday 18 November 13 21:42 GMT (UK) »
Ok thanks.  I guess it's about time I subscribe myself.  :)