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Completed with many thanks- Advice needed
« on: Wednesday 16 May 12 12:07 BST (UK) »
I believe there is a possibility that an ancestor was born on a ship on the wy to Auckland from England. I have searched the ship records and seven babies were born. So... If he was born on that journey where would his birth be registered? In England? Or in New Zealand?
Thank you for any help given :D
Robinson New Zealand/ Ireland
Lynch England/Ireland
Huett New Zealand/India
Kennedy Durham, England
Lord England
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« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 May 12 12:12 BST (UK) »
Hello Tiki.

My first question would be, what year are we looking at. Some of the early arrivals were well before the 1855/'s civil registration legislation.

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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 May 12 12:46 BST (UK) »
Hello Alan, it was 1863.
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Lynch England/Ireland
Huett New Zealand/India
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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 May 12 13:00 BST (UK) »
Hello again.

Have you tried all possible name combinations for that year, or into the next year, on this site?

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search.aspx?Path=%2FqueryEntry.m%3Ftype%3Dbirths

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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 May 12 13:05 BST (UK) »
His name was Isaiah Robinson and I can't seem to find him! But I will try again
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Lynch England/Ireland
Huett New Zealand/India
Kennedy Durham, England
Lord England
Daffern England

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 May 12 14:47 BST (UK) »
Found a death of Isaiah Robinson in 20 May 1916, age 48.  This gives a birth year of about 1868. I did not find him in the NZ BDM for 1867-1869.  His occupation was tinsmith.  He was buried at Purewa Cemetery. His probate is at Archives NZ. 

Death Reg: 1916/4042 Robinson Isaiah 48Y

Isaiah first appears on the electoral rolls in 1890, living on Pitt Street in Auckland.  Also on Pitt street are John Robinson Sr., tinsmith and John Robinson Jr., tinsmith. 

Does this sound like your guy?

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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 May 12 14:52 BST (UK) »
Could this be him? Perhaps born enroute to New Zealand?

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Isaiah Robinson
Birth Date: 1867
Father's Name: John Robinson
Mother's Name: Eliza
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1867
Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration number: 420

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 May 12 14:58 BST (UK) »
Just in case this is the family you seek, the burials were all in Purewa.

Surname  ROBINSON
First Names  Eliza
Age  68 Years
Gender  Female
Date of Death  30 Jun 1903
Religion  Not Listed
Serial No  2705
Date of Service and/or Interment  02 Jul 1903
Funeral Director  Jas Jamieson, 27 Belgium Street, City
What Buried?  Body
Casket Size   
Casket Depth   
Cemetery  Purewa Cemetery
Location  Block E Row 45 Plot 34

Surname  ROBINSON
First Names  John
Age  78 Years
Gender  Male
Date of Death  06 Dec 1910
Religion  Not Listed
Serial No  4469
Date of Service and/or Interment  08 Dec 1910
Funeral Director  Jas Jamieson, 27 Belgium Street, City
What Buried?  Body
Casket Size   
Casket Depth   
Cemetery  Purewa Cemetery
Location  Block E Row 45 Plot 033
Probate filed 3 Feb 1911,  Occupation retired tinsmith


Surname  ROBINSON
First Names  Isaiah
Age  48 Years
Gender  Male
Date of Death  20 May 1916
Religion  Not Listed
Serial No  5795
Date of Service and/or Interment  21 May 1916
Funeral Director  J Weir & Co (2003) Ltd, 70 Ponsonby Road, Ponsonby, AUCKLAND
What Buried?  Body
Casket Size   
Casket Depth   
Cemetery  Purewa Cemetery
Location  Block A Row 11 Plot 036

Surname  ROBINSON
First Names  John
Age  67 Years
Gender  Male
Date of Death  14 Jun 1928
Religion   
Serial No  9427
Date of Service and/or Interment  16 Jun 1928
Funeral Director  W H Tongue & Son's, P O Box 8510, Symonds Street, AUCKLAND
What Buried?  Body
Casket Size   
Casket Depth   
Cemetery  Purewa Cemetery
Location  Block E Row 45 Plot 033
probate filed 11 Jul 1928.  Occupation Retired tinsmith. 

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 17 May 12 07:29 BST (UK) »
Thank you all. But I found the information on a headstone and I am trying to work backwards. He died on the 25th May 1881 and he was 18 years old. If he is from my line he was born in 1863 on the way to New Zealand as he didn't board with the family. I have checked BDM too and the death does not appear so possibly the transcription from the headstone is incorrect.
Back to the original question - if a child is born on a sea voyage, where it it registered?
Thanks Tiki
Robinson New Zealand/ Ireland
Lynch England/Ireland
Huett New Zealand/India
Kennedy Durham, England
Lord England
Daffern England