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George and Harry Donald
« on: Tuesday 08 May 12 10:40 BST (UK) »
Using Scottish People I have been trying to find the birth of my wife’s great grandfather, George Donald. I found his marriage to Maggie Watson in 1889 in St Nicholas, Aberdeen, when he was 38 hence he was born about 1851 so prior to the Statutory Registers.

In that entry his parents are shown as (what looks like) Horatio? Donald and Ann Watt, both deceased at the time of the wedding.

George and Maggie’s son was named Harry Gordon Watson Donald. I’m also having trouble finding his birth entry. He was born in 1889. I have his birth year from his marriage register. I’ve not found the source of the Gordon name yet.

Any help finding either George or Harry would be great.

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Re: George and Harry Donald
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 08 May 12 11:04 BST (UK) »
Hi,

From family search.

Parents Horatio Donald & Ann Watt.

George Donald born 25/01/1850 & baptised on 05/03/1850, Skene, Aberdeen.
Robert Donald born 18/01/1852 & baptised on 16/02/1852, Skene, Aberdeen.
John Donald born 11/02/1855, Skene, Aberdeen

Horatio Donald married Ann Watt on 05/06/1847, Skene Aberdeen.

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Re: George and Harry Donald
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 08 May 12 11:17 BST (UK) »
Sharon, that was so quick. It also shows that I was a bit naive in thinking that familysearch would not cover Scotland, doh, as the kids say now.

Many thanks, now I have clues to other members of the family. I was also thrown by the name Horatio!

Mike

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Re: George and Harry Donald
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 May 12 11:21 BST (UK) »
Hi

Sharon has beaten me to it  ;D but as I've just typed this up, I'll post...

The IGI is always  great (free) place to start with Scotland genealogy  from early days to approx 1873 (I prefer to start on the old IGI for Scotland myself!)

Horatio DONALD & Ann WATT are the parents of the following children (all extracted births on the IGI:
George DONALD b 25 Jan 1850, chr 8 Mar 1850, Skene
Robert DONALD b 18 Jan 1852, chr 16 Feb 1852, Skene
John DONALD b 11 Sep 1855, Skene

From this, we know where to look for them in the 1851 Census.

Their marriage (extracted):
Horatio DONALD & Ann WATT married 5 Jun 1847, Skene.
As per Scottish tradition - Skene is likely to be the bride's 'home' Parish (and indeed the Census below has her born in Skene).

We also have the bonus of an 1855 birth - this was the one year, at the start of Civil Registration when a lot of extra information appeared on the BDM's -  the FAQs on this on Scotlands People:
1855 birth records were very detailed and are a boon to the family historian - you get: details about the child (date, place and time of birth, full name, sex), the parents' names (including MS of mother), father's occupation, name of informant and relationship to child, information on siblings, the ages and birthplaces of both parents, their usual residence and the date and place of their marriage.

1841: Leddach, Skene, Aberdeenshire
http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Charles WYNESS 69, Ag Lab - Y
Margrat WYNESS 68 - Y
Ratchel WYNESS 25 - Y
Ann WYNESS 22 - Y
Horatio DONALD 27, Ag Lab, b England

1851: Crombie Cottage, Skene, Aberdeenshire
http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Head: Horatio DONALD 39, Ag Lab, b London England
Wife: Ann DONALD 31, b Skene
Son; George DONALD 1, b Skene

1861: Chaple Hall Of Kinmundy, Skene, Aberdeenshire
Head: Ann DONALD 41, Stocking----ter?, b Skene
Son: George DONALD 11, Scholar,  b Skene
Son: Robert DONALD 9, Scholar, b Skene
Son: John DONALD 5, b Skene
(would need to confirm Ann's marital Status via the Census image) (she looks to be a widow - hopefully Horatio died in or after 1855! In the 1881 Census, Ann is described as a Road Worker's widow.

and I'd say this is Horatio:
LONDON Baptisms:
Born 18 Sep, 1811, Baptised 20 Oct 1811, St George in the East, Tower Hamlets:
Horatio DONALD, son of Charles DONALD, Custom House Officer, by Rachael, Catherine Street,

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Re: George and Harry Donald
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 May 12 11:28 BST (UK) »
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Sharon
Fagan/England/Ireland
Aldridge/London
Sills/London/Kent
Hartwell/London
Salkeld/Cumberland/Northumberland
Robinson/London
Stewart/Ireland/Scotland/England

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Re: George and Harry Donald
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 May 12 11:48 BST (UK) »
Ambly and Sharon, what can I say?

That is all so interesting. Not least the surprise that Horatio came from my neck of the woods and is a Southerner  :D.

Many, many thanks.

Mike

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Re: George and Harry Donald
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 08 May 12 12:12 BST (UK) »
Just to add -

http://www.anesfhs.org.uk/databank/miindex/miindex.php

Look for Horatio Donald

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Re: George and Harry Donald
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 08 May 12 12:35 BST (UK) »
Its getting difficult to keep up!  :D

Amazing. Thanks, Mike

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Re: George and Harry Donald
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 08 May 12 21:52 BST (UK) »
Ambly, you got your wish! Horatio did die in 1855.
Mike, hopefully a rootschatter will have a copy of the Kirkton of Skene book & will be able to give you the full memorial inscription!
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TAYLOR, COBBAN, SCOTT, PATERSON, BARCLAY,  DUNCAN, SKENE, SIM, WOOD, STEPHEN, ROSE,  CUMINE, MORISON, GERRARD, PYPER, ANDERSON,  FARQUHAR, BURNET, THOMSON, DAVIDSON, BIRNIE,  STRACHAN, DEY, GERRIE, ROBERTSON, FINNIE, WYLLIE,STEPHEN,WILLOX,MICHIE,MARR,BRUCE, CLUBB,SLESSOR,CLARK, SIMPSON,HEPBURN,SINCLAIR,BEEDIE,FOWLIE, CLYNE,FINDLATER, JOHNSTON,BROCKIE,PARK, WATT,MACKIE,WALKER,YEATS,THIRD, BURD,EWAN,ARTHUR,AUCKLAND, MURDOCH,LOW, IRVINE,CHALMERS,BOYES, LYON,SMITH,ADIE, WATSON - ALL N.E.SCOTLAND.
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